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Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:57 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Do you guys do this? Do ducks segregate themselves? This year we segregated our decoys based on species, wigeon with wigeon, mallards with mallards, divers with divers, and intermingled coots with all. Is this a good idea?

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:04 am
by Bootlipkiller
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Do you guys do this? Do ducks segregate themselves? This year we segregated our decoys based on species, wigeon with wigeon, mallards with mallards, divers with divers, and intermingled coots with all. Is this a good idea?

im not saying its right but thats what I do!

maybe Mt will show up later, he's the one you should really be asking. :D

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:19 am
by AKPirate
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Do you guys do this? Do ducks segregate themselves? This year we segregated our decoys based on species, wigeon with wigeon, mallards with mallards, divers with divers, and intermingled coots with all. Is this a good idea?

im not saying its right but thats what I do!

maybe Mt will show up later, he's the one you should really be asking. :D


When he overrides Gods lightning striker, I will just be the next blind over

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:23 am
by Bootlipkiller
seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:39 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.

That is what I have seen, but I don't spend a whole lot of time looking at ducks, because I don't live close enough to them to. I have noticed that pretty much all divers intermix, and that everything hangs out with coots. I've even seen wigeon steal food from coots after the coot came up from diving.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:46 am
by Feelin' Fowl
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:50 am
by Bootlipkiller
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:53 am
by AKPirate
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.


Gaddy has to remind him that you must be adaptable

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:53 am
by Feelin' Fowl
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.


Not your hooks and x's. Just for your species.

Don't you leave the big spread out all year?

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:58 am
by Bootlipkiller
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.


Not your hooks and x's. Just for your species.

Don't you leave the big spread out all year?

Yes I do but I'm going to pretend what I know about setting large spreads is insignificant.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:59 am
by Feelin' Fowl
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.


Not your hooks and x's. Just for your species.

Don't you leave the big spread out all year?

Yes I do but I'm going to pretend what I know about setting large spreads is insignificant.


:lol: Fair enough

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:15 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:seriously I spend a lot of time looking at ducks in the valley and you don't normally see them mixed up on the water.


Boot...draw and post a diagram of your 400 decoy spread sometime.

Seriously.

I'd like to see what you guys do.

FF it completely depends not the field. North and south checks and east and west checks make all the difference in the world.


Not your hooks and x's. Just for your species.

Don't you leave the big spread out all year?

I'm just gonna take a wild guess here on his spread. 5 dozen mallard floaters, 1 dozen full body mallards, 3 dozen sprig floaters, 1 dozen full body sprigs, 2 dozen wigeon, 1 dozen teal. Then he has 6-10 full body or shell specks and 6-10 full body or shell snows either on the back side of the spread toward the center of the check, or about 80 yards down the levee from the blind. Am I close?

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:19 am
by Bootlipkiller
Son! I know more about decoy placement then you know about what lotion won't make your pee hole burn.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:20 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Bootlipkiller wrote:Son! I know more about decoy placement then you know about what lotion won't make your pee hole burn.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:23 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:25 am
by Bootlipkiller
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:27 am
by AKPirate
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.


That made me laugh :lol:

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:29 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.

We hunt with more, but that's all of our puddlers. If we're on the lake we also run 4 dozen cans, 1 dozen bluebills and 1 1/2 dozen honkers.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:30 am
by Feelin' Fowl
ducks~n~bucks wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.

We hunt with more, but that's all of our puddlers. If we're on the lake we also run 4 dozen cans, 1 dozen bluebills and 1 1/2 dozen hookers.


Hookers and widgets? What are you hunting out there?

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:31 am
by Bootlipkiller
ducks~n~bucks wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.

We hunt with more, but that's all of our puddlers. If we're on the lake we also run 4 dozen cans, 1 dozen bluebills and 1 1/2 dozen hookers.

Hookers? I'm hunting the wrong place!

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:32 am
by ducks~n~bucks
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Ok, back to serious questions. How would you place 1 1/2 dozen mallards, half dozen widgets, and a dozen coots? Hunting from a point about 20 yards long, and about 5 yards wide?

With that few of decoys it really doesn't matter.

We hunt with more, but that's all of our puddlers. If we're on the lake we also run 4 dozen cans, 1 dozen bluebills and 1 1/2 dozen hookers.


Hookers and widgets? What are you hunting out there?

Shit, I mean honkers. :lol: And widgets is what my dads friend calls wigeons, I picked it up from him.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:42 am
by NuffDaddy
I mix the black ducks, mallards, and mallards. Keep the honkers, divers, teal, and woodies separate from the main group and each other.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:37 am
by assateague
I always keep the blacks separate from the buffies.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:59 am
by DeadEye_Dan
Yall are a bunch of racist pricks

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:43 pm
by hudson
I keep all separate but I will mix them with coots

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:27 pm
by gila-river
I don't get too hunt them much anymore but the divers seem way more racist than puddle ducks. Especially butterballs.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:17 pm
by Rick
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Yall are a bunch of racist pricks


Made Sammy sit in the back of the buss:
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More seriously, I tend to segregate most loosely by species:
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and have found poule d'eau (aka: coot) rafts particularly effective:
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But I put most of my teal close to big ducks in the belief that their size difference adds to the illusion of life from a distance:
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Then, again, it may have been my spread that sucked so bad all the ducks went to Hudson's end of the parish this year...

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:06 pm
by ducks~n~bucks
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Yall are a bunch of racist pricks

If we don't keep them separated,they'll start wanting equal rights! Spoonies wanting to be treated like Canvasbacks and such.

Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:54 pm
by Rick
Damba. I do bad work. That last "But I put most of my teal close to big ducks in the belief that their size difference adds to the illusion of life from a distance:" pic shoulda been this one:
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Re: Separating bird species in decoys?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:53 am
by rebelp74
Rick wrote:Damba. I do bad work. That last "But I put most of my teal close to big ducks in the belief that their size difference adds to the illusion of life from a distance:" pic shoulda been this one:
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Do dakotas start to fade pretty bad after a while or is it just the pic?