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Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:09 pm
by Mornin Beef
jehler wrote:As for reading the boards, those bastards always be screwing with us

I love arguing about dragging perch. :x

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:21 am
by QH's Paw
jehler wrote:http://www.axtackle.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1859
would like a review on these also

Those are very similar to the ones some guys use from the bank here, on rivers, when they want to run a plug from shore. They work pretty good for that application. I don't see why you couldn't get the same effect from out the side of a boat as long as you are moving at a good enough clip to keep them out to the side and not float up behind the boat.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:22 am
by bill herian
Jehler, whats your aversion to yellow birds? We use the little ones for all of our coho/steelhead fishing and kings in the beach. Don't try pulling a lot of tackle with them but we can run 10 of them and get them to track nice.

Big birds are good for running lead balls too. Not the most sporty way to do it but that dosen't concern me.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:26 am
by jehler
Have way more problems with them diving on us, I like the price but compared to the ease and performance of a walleye board there is no going back, you ever used a church board? The walleye board will haul almost anything, I have seen the Tx-44 haul a magnum Dipsy, not that I would but badass for maybe hauling your big balls bill

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:59 pm
by bill herian
We use church boards for our lead core. Just the standard one. They pull ten color ropes just well enough to not try something else. If we ran anything bigger for ten color ropes, you run the risk of dragging small fish around all day without knowing. Even with the church board, its ard to tell sometimes when you have a Tim on there. Also gotta remember we are running 3-5 boards a side, so we need to get the best spacing possible. Any tangle is going to involve 75+ dollars in tackle.

Bend the wire arm on your yellow bird if its diving. We use them because :

1) they are lighter

2) I don't want to be unhooking church boards with the fish forty feet behind the boat, be it 3 pound coho or 4 year old kings, you are going to lose a lot of them doing that.

3) we are not stringing everything with braid just so we can run church boards. We are a for-profit operation.

4)When we get into the coho, having church boards on all our rigs sounds like a nightmare, now that I think about it. More often than not I'm netting them two or three at a crack. No time for church boards with all that.

5) the coho won't pull a church board back far enough to clear the inside boards. When they trip the yellow birds, everything does a nice neat arc right to the back of the boat, keeping clear of all the other gear. Gotta remeber, we are running ten of those bastards. Space is tight.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:20 pm
by jehler
bill herian wrote:We use church boards for our lead core. Just the standard one. They pull ten color ropes just well enough to not try something else. If we ran anything bigger for ten color ropes, you run the risk of dragging small fish around all day without knowing. Even with the church board, its ard to tell sometimes when you have a Tim on there. Also gotta remember we are running 3-5 boards a side, so we need to get the best spacing possible. Any tangle is going to involve 75+ dollars in tackle.

Bend the wire arm on your yellow bird if its diving. We use them because :

1) they are lighter

2) I don't want to be unhooking church boards with the fish forty feet behind the boat, be it 3 pound coho or 4 year old kings, you are going to lose a lot of them doing that.

3) we are not stringing everything with braid just so we can run church boards. We are a for-profit operation.

4)When we get into the coho, having church boards on all our rigs sounds like a nightmare, now that I think about it. More often than not I'm netting them two or three at a crack. No time for church boards with all that.

5) the coho won't pull a church board back far enough to clear the inside boards. When they trip the yellow birds, everything does a nice neat arc right to the back of the boat, keeping clear of all the other gear. Gotta remeber, we are running ten of those bastards. Space is tight.
the fiver per side would give me a stroke, trolling Atlantic's last week we went 3 per side and it was nuts.

Bending the wire, I'll have to look at that, in guessing whether I bend it up or down will be obvious when I'm looking at it?

I've never caught a coho, this year it's on the agenda. When we are trolling kings I stack my two riggers, two Dipsy's and one church each side. If I could I would just run the riggers, as I enjoy that just me and the fish thing they offer, sometimes the fish are just spooky about them though.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:09 pm
by Bootlipkiller
You guys are off the hook running all those setups. Me and my buddy had enough trouble running 4 striper fishing the other night. Had one fish grab a rebel and he was instantly tangled in two other setups. We got him in thanks to our cool headed actions and superior skill.;)

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:25 pm
by jehler
Bootlipkiller wrote:You guys are off the hook running all those setups. Me and my buddy had enough trouble running 4 striper fishing the other night. Had one fish grab a rebel and he was instantly tangled in two other setups. We got him in thanks to our cool headed actions and superior skill.;)
great lakes fishing has got to be the gear queerest fishing in the world

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:34 pm
by Bootlipkiller
jehler wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:You guys are off the hook running all those setups. Me and my buddy had enough trouble running 4 striper fishing the other night. Had one fish grab a rebel and he was instantly tangled in two other setups. We got him in thanks to our cool headed actions and superior skill.;)
great lakes fishing has got to be the gear queerest fishing in the world

:) we always make fun of the guides and fly fishermen around here. They wear shit like this.
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Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:38 pm
by jehler
I don't flyfish but have that vest, my wife took it from the lost and found at work, she brought it home proclaiming "hey babe, I got you a dr Rick Marshall vest"

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:40 pm
by Bootlipkiller
Hahaha! This is what I look like fishing.
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Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:42 pm
by jehler
Bootlipkiller wrote:Hahaha! This is what I look like fishing.
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me to, I only wear the vest to things like parent teacher conferences

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:21 pm
by Tiler_J
Bootlipkiller wrote:Hahaha! This is what I look like fishing.
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Except you have your shirt on backwards! :lol:

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:32 pm
by Bootlipkiller
Tiler_J wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Hahaha! This is what I look like fishing.
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Except you have your shirt on backwards! :lol:

Shit I forgot about that :) I really need to stop drinking.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:52 pm
by Tiler_J
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Tiler_J wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Hahaha! This is what I look like fishing.
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Except you have your shirt on backwards! :lol:

Shit I forgot about that :) I really need to stop drinking.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :beer:

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:08 pm
by 3legged_lab
Those salmon colored fishing shirts are dress code for westie and flint when they go fishing.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:26 pm
by Flightstopper
3legged_lab wrote:Those salmon colored fishing shirts are dress code for westie and flint when they go fishing.

Come down to the gulf in the middle of the summer and you'll be begging me for one of those shirts.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:28 pm
by rebelp74
Flightstopper wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:Those salmon colored fishing shirts are dress code for westie and flint when they go fishing.

Come down to the gulf in the middle of the summer and you'll be begging me for one of those shirts.

Negative. Flip flops, shorts and sometimes a t-shirt are about all wear when I take the boat out in the gulf.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:28 pm
by Bootlipkiller
So what your saying is there are lots of gays in the gulf.:)

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:28 pm
by assateague
Doubt it.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:29 pm
by Bootlipkiller
Every time I see a guide in one of those I can't help but yell,"it's not pink, it's salmon"!

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:06 pm
by Goldfish
Bootlipkiller wrote:Every time I see a guide in one of those I can't help but yell,"it's not pink, it's salmon"!

Pronounce the L in salmon too, lol

sent from a phancy fone

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:54 pm
by bill herian
I got a question, John.

Where did these Atlantics come from? I've never heard of that. I hope they swim my way. If you caught a limit imagine what I could do to them. :lol:

I didn't know you guys don't get Coho up there. They are typically our bread and butter for the first third of the season unless the kings show up in force.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:10 pm
by Bootlipkiller
My guess.... The Atlantic.:)

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:18 pm
by bill herian
Bootlipkiller wrote:My guess.... The Atlantic.:)


No rebels for you.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:21 pm
by Bootlipkiller
bill herian wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:My guess.... The Atlantic.:)


No rebels for you.

:):):)

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:03 am
by jehler
bill herian wrote:I got a question, John.

Where did these Atlantics come from? I've never heard of that. I hope they swim my way. If you caught a limit imagine what I could do to them. :lol:

I didn't know you guys don't get Coho up there. They are typically our bread and butter for the first third of the season unless the kings show up in force.
we get coho bill, a lot, but by the time they are in thick its combat fishing and we have moved on to inland lakes or early youth hunts and stuff. The Atlantic's are plants on an inland lake

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:06 am
by jehler
So you all catch the coho before the kings huh? Here they show up later I was told, we started catching kings in June last year and fished then once a week or better, caught plenty of steelhead but never a coho.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:46 pm
by Mornin Beef
jehler wrote:So you all catch the coho before the kings huh? Here they show up later I was told, we started catching kings in June last year and fished then once a week or better, caught plenty of steelhead but never a coho.

cohos first then kings on ontario.

Re: crappie diagnostics

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:04 pm
by bill herian
You fish ontario?

I wouldn't go out on that death trap in a million years.