Stripers

[capt1972]

every time I see this thread title I think this......


DAMN YOU!

[Bootlipkiller]

every time I see this thread title I think this......


DAMN YOU!

:):)

As long as she don't smell like this.

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[The Duck Hammer]

every time I see this thread title I think this......


DAMN YOU!

Glad to hear someone else was thinking like me.

[quacknstack6]

Do yall have a size limit?

[Goldfish]

Do yall have a size limit?

anything bigger than Ds is to much

sent from a phancy fone

[Bootlipkiller]

Do yall have a size limit?

Must be larger than 18" to keep. We also release females but that's not a law just something most guys do to keep populations up.

[jehler]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

[Bootlipkiller]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

They are great too eat. White flakey meat like halibut. Our fish were brought over from New Jersey in the 1880's to start a commercial fishing operation. The fucking hippies and politicians keep trying to pass bills to eradicate them but we got all the BASS guys to shut them down.

[The Duck Hammer]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

[assateague]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

Yep. They will eat the hell out of all the other fish. The geniuses here impose a trophy season, which may be good for money, but is terrible for fish. The worst offenders are the big cow rockfish who eat all the other smaller ones. But hey, only catch them at a certain time, please, otherwise let them go, "to protect the species". They are good to eat, and there are a ton of them here in the Chesapeake and off the beaches. Here are our regs (and you thought the duck seasons were convoluted)


3/1/2013 - 5/3/2013

CATCH AND to RELEASE ONLY Susquehanna Flats, upstream of a line from Sandy Point to Turkey Point and the Susquehanna River downstream from a line connecting the Susquehanna State Park Boat Ramp in Lapidum to Twin Rocks to Tomes Wharf in Port Deposit; and Northeast River.

No eels
No stinger hooks
Barbless hooks when trolling
Circle hooks or J hooks (less than 1/2") when using bait
6 lines or less when trolling, regardless of the number of people on board



4/20/2013 - 5/15/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

28" or greater 1/person/day
Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from Brewerton Channel to the Maryland/Virginia Line, Tangier & Pocomoke Sounds (no Tributaries)

No Eels



5/16/2013 - 5/31/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28"
2/person/day
1/person/day (Susquehanna & Northeast Rivers)

Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from a line between Tolchester to the south point of Hart-Miller Island south to the MD/VA Line plus areas of the Chester, Choptank and Patuxent Rivers.
No eels
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day.

1/person/day 18" - 26" in Susquehanna Flats & Northeast River.



6/1/2013 - 12/15/2013
Mon thru Sun
5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28" 2/person/day

Maryland's Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day

[bill herian]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial oppurtunity.


Assa, they seriously don't let you use eels? Is it for the eel's sake or because they work too well?

[Bootlipkiller]

I represent the eel all the time to catch them.

[quacknstack6]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial oppurtunity.


Assa, they seriously don't let you use eels? Is it for the eel's sake or because they work too well?

yes, they are a cross between striper and white bass if I am not mistaken. Here in ky, whites and hybrids make their runs at the same time. Your best bet to catch a full mess of them is as soon as you see the dogwoods bloom.

[Bootlipkiller]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial oppurtunity.


Assa, they seriously don't let you use eels? Is it for the eel's sake or because they work too well?

yes, they are a cross between striper and white bass if I am not mistaken. Here in ky, whites and hybrids make their runs at the same time. Your best bet to catch a full mess of them is as soon as you see the dogwoods bloom.

Ha that's the same thing that's said here. Dog woods blooming or another one my great grandpa said was once they start thinning the peach orchards.

[jehler]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

Yep. They will eat the hell out of all the other fish. The geniuses here impose a trophy season, which may be good for money, but is terrible for fish. The worst offenders are the big cow rockfish who eat all the other smaller ones. But hey, only catch them at a certain time, please, otherwise let them go, "to protect the species". They are good to eat, and there are a ton of them here in the Chesapeake and off the beaches. Here are our regs (and you thought the duck seasons were convoluted)


3/1/2013 - 5/3/2013

CATCH AND to RELEASE ONLY Susquehanna Flats, upstream of a line from Sandy Point to Turkey Point and the Susquehanna River downstream from a line connecting the Susquehanna State Park Boat Ramp in Lapidum to Twin Rocks to Tomes Wharf in Port Deposit; and Northeast River.

No eels
No stinger hooks
Barbless hooks when trolling
Circle hooks or J hooks (less than 1/2") when using bait
6 lines or less when trolling, regardless of the number of people on board



4/20/2013 - 5/15/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

28" or greater 1/person/day
Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from Brewerton Channel to the Maryland/Virginia Line, Tangier & Pocomoke Sounds (no Tributaries)

No Eels



5/16/2013 - 5/31/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28"
2/person/day
1/person/day (Susquehanna & Northeast Rivers)

Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from a line between Tolchester to the south point of Hart-Miller Island south to the MD/VA Line plus areas of the Chester, Choptank and Patuxent Rivers.
No eels
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day.

1/person/day 18" - 26" in Susquehanna Flats & Northeast River.



6/1/2013 - 12/15/2013
Mon thru Sun
5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28" 2/person/day

Maryland's Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day

when my regs look like that I'll just stop reading them

[Bootlipkiller]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

Yep. They will eat the hell out of all the other fish. The geniuses here impose a trophy season, which may be good for money, but is terrible for fish. The worst offenders are the big cow rockfish who eat all the other smaller ones. But hey, only catch them at a certain time, please, otherwise let them go, "to protect the species". They are good to eat, and there are a ton of them here in the Chesapeake and off the beaches. Here are our regs (and you thought the duck seasons were convoluted)


3/1/2013 - 5/3/2013

CATCH AND to RELEASE ONLY Susquehanna Flats, upstream of a line from Sandy Point to Turkey Point and the Susquehanna River downstream from a line connecting the Susquehanna State Park Boat Ramp in Lapidum to Twin Rocks to Tomes Wharf in Port Deposit; and Northeast River.

No eels
No stinger hooks
Barbless hooks when trolling
Circle hooks or J hooks (less than 1/2") when using bait
6 lines or less when trolling, regardless of the number of people on board



4/20/2013 - 5/15/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

28" or greater 1/person/day
Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from Brewerton Channel to the Maryland/Virginia Line, Tangier & Pocomoke Sounds (no Tributaries)

No Eels



5/16/2013 - 5/31/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28"
2/person/day
1/person/day (Susquehanna & Northeast Rivers)

Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from a line between Tolchester to the south point of Hart-Miller Island south to the MD/VA Line plus areas of the Chester, Choptank and Patuxent Rivers.
No eels
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day.

1/person/day 18" - 26" in Susquehanna Flats & Northeast River.



6/1/2013 - 12/15/2013
Mon thru Sun
5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28" 2/person/day

Maryland's Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day

when my regs look like that I'll just stop reading them

Yep to complicated. I would use the Eel.

[assateague]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial oppurtunity.


Assa, they seriously don't let you use eels? Is it for the eel's sake or because they work too well?

You can, but not until June 1st. Supposedly, it's because they work too well, so during the trophy season (28" and up only) they're off limits. Although with the diminishing eel grass here in the Bay, eels aren't what they used to be as far as bait is concerned. I suspect there are many rockfish who haven't seen an eel that WASN'T on somebody's hook. Truthfully, the best bait would probably be about a 6-8" rockfish, but Lord help you if you get caught with that one. Rockfish are some of the most cannibalistic bastards out there.

[assateague]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

Yep. They will eat the hell out of all the other fish. The geniuses here impose a trophy season, which may be good for money, but is terrible for fish. The worst offenders are the big cow rockfish who eat all the other smaller ones. But hey, only catch them at a certain time, please, otherwise let them go, "to protect the species". They are good to eat, and there are a ton of them here in the Chesapeake and off the beaches. Here are our regs (and you thought the duck seasons were convoluted)


3/1/2013 - 5/3/2013

CATCH AND to RELEASE ONLY Susquehanna Flats, upstream of a line from Sandy Point to Turkey Point and the Susquehanna River downstream from a line connecting the Susquehanna State Park Boat Ramp in Lapidum to Twin Rocks to Tomes Wharf in Port Deposit; and Northeast River.

No eels
No stinger hooks
Barbless hooks when trolling
Circle hooks or J hooks (less than 1/2") when using bait
6 lines or less when trolling, regardless of the number of people on board



4/20/2013 - 5/15/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

28" or greater 1/person/day
Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from Brewerton Channel to the Maryland/Virginia Line, Tangier & Pocomoke Sounds (no Tributaries)

No Eels



5/16/2013 - 5/31/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28"
2/person/day
1/person/day (Susquehanna & Northeast Rivers)

Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from a line between Tolchester to the south point of Hart-Miller Island south to the MD/VA Line plus areas of the Chester, Choptank and Patuxent Rivers.
No eels
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day.

1/person/day 18" - 26" in Susquehanna Flats & Northeast River.



6/1/2013 - 12/15/2013
Mon thru Sun
5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28" 2/person/day

Maryland's Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day

when my regs look like that I'll just stop reading them

I told you guys, it's why most are poachers. We just don't give a shit around here. They play their games, we play ours.

[jehler]

How does striper eat? How come we don't have em in the Great Lakes, anybody know, they need saltwater?

The water needs to be salty for them to make it. Plus you don't want them there. The have severely affected the smaller fish populations in Texoma since they were put in. But they bring in so much money to the area that they are reveled as the greatest thing to happen to the lake.

Yep. They will eat the hell out of all the other fish. The geniuses here impose a trophy season, which may be good for money, but is terrible for fish. The worst offenders are the big cow rockfish who eat all the other smaller ones. But hey, only catch them at a certain time, please, otherwise let them go, "to protect the species". They are good to eat, and there are a ton of them here in the Chesapeake and off the beaches. Here are our regs (and you thought the duck seasons were convoluted)


3/1/2013 - 5/3/2013

CATCH AND to RELEASE ONLY Susquehanna Flats, upstream of a line from Sandy Point to Turkey Point and the Susquehanna River downstream from a line connecting the Susquehanna State Park Boat Ramp in Lapidum to Twin Rocks to Tomes Wharf in Port Deposit; and Northeast River.

No eels
No stinger hooks
Barbless hooks when trolling
Circle hooks or J hooks (less than 1/2") when using bait
6 lines or less when trolling, regardless of the number of people on board



4/20/2013 - 5/15/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

28" or greater 1/person/day
Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from Brewerton Channel to the Maryland/Virginia Line, Tangier & Pocomoke Sounds (no Tributaries)

No Eels



5/16/2013 - 5/31/2013 5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28"
2/person/day
1/person/day (Susquehanna & Northeast Rivers)

Restricted to the mainstem Chesapeake Bay from a line between Tolchester to the south point of Hart-Miller Island south to the MD/VA Line plus areas of the Chester, Choptank and Patuxent Rivers.
No eels
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day.

1/person/day 18" - 26" in Susquehanna Flats & Northeast River.



6/1/2013 - 12/15/2013
Mon thru Sun
5:01am - 11:59pm

18" to 28" 2/person/day

Maryland's Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
2 @ 18"- 28" OR
1 @ 18" - 28" and 1 larger than 28"/person/day

when my regs look like that I'll just stop reading them

Yep to complicated. I would use the Eel.

they might as well just come out and say eels are the best striper bait ever

[The Duck Hammer]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial opportunity.

Exactly, Ours may be hybrids but we just call them stripers. Texoma used to be the best sand bass and crappie lakes around until the stripers came in and started cleaning them all up.

[rebelp74]

Not true for the water to be salty for them. We have regular stripers and hybrids here in fresh water lakes and rivers.

[assateague]

They've been adapted to freshwater, but they are a native saltwater species. It's our state fish. We actually had to learn this shit.

[Bootlipkiller]

They are an anadromous fish. This means they spend parts of their life in salt and fresh water just like a salmon or steelhead.

[bill herian]

Aren't there hybrid stipers in freshwater all over the place?

They have a very interesting history in North America and stigma vary by locale. Look at the southern resivors that used to have some of the most productive crappie and walleye fisheries on the planet, that have now plummeted because of striped bass. Some people love them down there, they are big, dumb, pelagic foragers that grow big in deep cool impoundments and offer good commercial opportunity.

Exactly, Ours may be hybrids but we just call them stripers. Texoma used to be the best sand bass and crappie lakes around until the stripers came in and started cleaning them all up.

I've talked to fisheries guys that worked in Kentucky and they said in all the hundreds of stripers they cut open they could count on one hand the number of things they found that were not one kind of shad or another, mostly gizzard shad I believe. There has long been public outrage that stripers are eating all the gamefish, but from what I gather it ain't true. Dosen't mean they aren't impacting those fisheries though.

[Bootlipkiller]

It's a big debate here too. They are taking the heat for the decline of our salmon population in the past ten years. My problem is we've had them since the late 1800s and we have always had strong salmon runs until late. However the amount of water being shipped to so cal from the Sacramento River delta has increased every year. I've been told when the delta pumps are turned on the water runs red with the blood of hundreds of thousands of salmon smelt and other fish species. Basically the striper is a scape goat for so cal politicians to divert attention from the real problem under the the false notion of helping the salmon fishery.

[bill herian]

Exactly, Ours may be hybrids but we just call them stripers. Texoma used to be the best sand bass and crappie lakes around until the stripers came in and started cleaning them all up.

When the TVA was first established and these big impoundments were made, the productivity of the water bodies formed was off the charts. All the organic matter in the newly formed lake bed coupled with warm climate meant growth rates were off the charts. Thats where all the stories about stringers full of 2+ pound plus crappies come from. The decline of these fisheries is nothing more than the biomass balance coming back into some sort of eqilibruim. This happens anytime you turn productive dry land into a lake.

I'd wager this is similar to what happened in Texoma. Once all of the initial biomass was decomped and recomped in the food web, the primary mirobes became suspended photosynthisizers, the primary forage shifted from minnows to shad who find those microbes in the open lake instead of down in the mud, and the primary foragers became stripers who have a knack for finding and staying on them.

If stripers and bass and walleye compete for food, well, you know who wins.

[Bootlipkiller]

Damn bill I thought when I tossed the term anadromous out there I sounded smart! But then you throw this gem out there with all these biology terms and now I feel dumb again.

[jehler]

Exactly, Ours may be hybrids but we just call them stripers. Texoma used to be the best sand bass and crappie lakes around until the stripers came in and started cleaning them all up.

When the TVA was first established and these big impoundments were made, the productivity of the water bodies formed was off the charts. All the organic matter in the newly formed lake bed coupled with warm climate meant growth rates were off the charts. Thats where all the stories about stringers full of 2+ pound plus crappies come from. The decline of these fisheries is nothing more than the biomass balance coming back into some sort of eqilibruim. This happens anytime you turn productive dry land into a lake.

I'd wager this is similar to what happened in Texoma. Once all of the initial biomass was decomped and recomped in the food web, the primary mirobes became suspended photosynthisizers, the primary forage shifted from minnows to shad who find those microbes in the open lake instead of down in the mud, and the primary foragers became stripers who have a knack for finding and staying on them.

If stripers and bass and walleye compete for food, well, you know who wins.

fuck you bill, your from Wisconsin quit trying to sound like a fib

[bill herian]

Damn bill I thought when I tossed the term anadromous out there I sounded smart! But then you throw this gem out there with all these biology terms and now I feel dumb again.

I paid too much money to sit through the classes and not learn something.

[Bootlipkiller]

All I got is a natural resources degree from a JC. You da man!