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Another dipper

Posted:
Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:13 pm
by Baysider
I finished the base coats of paint last night and hope to finish up the feather detail tonight. With all the rain we've had and drop in temps I might have to put it in the oven to get the oil paint to dry.

This one is a trveling decoy for a VA forum.
Re: Another dipper

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Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:18 pm
by JGUN
Nice looking bird.
Did you do anything to stiffen the tail up?
Re: Another dipper

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Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:23 pm
by Baysider
Thanks man. No the tail actually pretty thick. It just looks thin because of the way I shaped it.
Re: Another dipper

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Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:33 pm
by JGUN
Ah gotcha.
Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:28 am
by Baysider
Spent some time in the shop painting on the bird last night. Lost track of time and man am I paying for it this morning.

All thats left is to blend the iridesent colors into the head and back.
What do you diver guys think, keel or pad weight and strap?
Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:34 am
by obxbufflehead
I say keel. And that is a good looking decoy.

Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:53 am
by Flightstopper
PM me a price for a block. Gotta give it up that's some impressive work!
Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:07 am
by Baysider
Thanks for all the kind words guys.
PM sent Flightstopper.
Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:13 pm
by Bufflehead
nice looking decoy

Re: Another dipper

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:53 pm
by assateague
That thing's awesome. I need to learn to do that. The only thing stopping me from trying it is lack of a bandsaw.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:16 am
by Baysider
I got my band saw for under $200 at Harbor Freight 10 years ago. Most of the time you can carry your blocks to a cabinet shop and have them cut them out for you for little to nothing. If you make it down this way I'd be more than happy to let you use my saw. Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:25 am
by Bufflehead
Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:28 am
by obxbufflehead
Bufflehead wrote:Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
How hard is it to make bouy decoys? I would like to try it.
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Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:44 am
by Bufflehead
obxbufflehead wrote:Bufflehead wrote:Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
How hard is it to make bouy decoys? I would like to try it.
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cut a buoy in half, cut out a head, attach head with a screw and paint. you can use plywood to make a head and keel all in one piece like a silhouette or make the head and keel seperate out of 1" lumber. plenty of buoys in the marsh
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:48 am
by obxbufflehead
Bufflehead wrote:obxbufflehead wrote:Bufflehead wrote:Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
How hard is it to make bouy decoys? I would like to try it.
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cut a buoy in half, cut out a head, attach head with a screw and paint. you can use plywood to make a head and keel all in one piece like a silhouette or make the head and keel seperate out of 1" lumber. plenty of buoys in the marsh
Thanks. I'm going to have to do that. I need some buffs and they won't sink if they get shot.
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Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:56 am
by Baysider
Bufflehead wrote:Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
I managed to cut half way through my middle finger and right into the knuckle. Of course Im left handed, but luckily I'm ambidextrous. I was scared to death that first time back on the saw after surgery and 3 months of physical therapy.
Bouy decoys can be as simple or as complex as you want them. Many guys here cut the "bullet" bouys in half and make a one piece silo head and keel that inserts into the front of the body.
The following are all made from crab pot bouys.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:01 am
by obxbufflehead
Baysider wrote:Bufflehead wrote:Baysider wrote: Just dont do like I did and stick your hand in it.

x2 i cut the tip of my thumb off and part of the fingernail making bouy decoys when i was about 14 or 15. luckily it was far enough out that it healed up and grew back.
I managed to cut half way through my middle finger and right into the knuckle. Of course Im left handed, but luckily I'm ambidextrous. I was scared to death that first time back on the saw after surgery and 3 months of physical therapy.
Bouy decoys can be as simple or as complex as you want them. Many guys here cut the "bullet" bouys in half and make a one piece silo head and keel that inserts into the front of the body.
The following are all made from crab pot bouys.
That can and widgeon are awesome! I know right now mine won't look anything like that. Mine would look more like the brant.
And @bufflehead. What kind of paint would you recommend using for working decoys?
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Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:24 am
by Flightstopper
Dremel to carve them out?
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:06 pm
by Bufflehead
obxbufflehead wrote:
And @bufflehead. What kind of paint would you recommend using for working decoys?
if you just simple decoys to hunt over, on buffleheads and blackheads, i use ace hardware rust stop, flat white and flat black. mix the two together to get the grey for the bill.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:07 pm
by obxbufflehead
Bufflehead wrote:obxbufflehead wrote:
And @bufflehead. What kind of paint would you recommend using for working decoys?
if you just simple decoys to hunt over, on buffleheads and blackheads, i use ace hardware rust stop, flat white and flat black. mix the two together to get the grey for the bill.
Ok thanks. I am going to try it this weekend.
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Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:10 pm
by Bufflehead
Baysider wrote: I was scared to death that first time back on the saw after surgery and 3 months of physical therapy.
i can imagine
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:11 pm
by obxbufflehead
And this is a stupid question but do you have to have a bandsaw to make them?
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Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:23 pm
by Baysider
Not sure if you have to be a member here but this is a link to a tutorial on how to make them. He uses a bandsaw, but a coping saw with a good blade with work. Ive also heard that a sharp break knife will cut foam and cork. A fine rasp is good for shaping.
http://www.duckboats.net/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=6330;search_string=bouy%20coot;session=9e3545ad0b54c09f655493ea8957f0a8#6330
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:37 pm
by Bufflehead
obxbufflehead wrote:And this is a stupid question but do you have to have a bandsaw to make them?
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no. the only thing you need any kind of saw for is to cut the heads and keels. you can split and shape the buoys with a knife.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:40 pm
by Bufflehead
good info right there. i couldn't see the pics but he explains how to do it
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:55 pm
by Baysider
A jigsaw is all you need for cutting the heads and keels. The Ace brand paint is good paint. If you see any large areas of black on my decoys it is flat oil Ace paint. Good stuff, dries fast, and very flat. Much cheaper for painting the entire back or breast of a diver rather than using $15 artist oil paint.
Re: Another dipper

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:25 pm
by obxbufflehead
Thanks.
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Re: Another dipper

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:33 am
by Baysider
Finally finished the paint on this one and added the keel. Coated it with varnish this morning and it'll go into the rig in the morning.
Re: Another dipper

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:35 am
by obxbufflehead
Baysider wrote:Finally finished the paint on this one and added the keel. Coated it with varnish this morning and it'll go into the rig in the morning.
That looks good.
Re: Another dipper

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:40 pm
by assateague
Baysider wrote:Finally finished the paint on this one and added the keel. Coated it with varnish this morning and it'll go into the rig in the morning.
That looks amazing.