State of the Season

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Re: State of the Season

Postby 5 stand » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:38 pm

Thank you, Larry
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:50 am

Quoting DC's note of the "have had's", indeed many have talked about for years now this game becoming a case of the have's and have-not's.

There's a wealthy fella I won't name that manages some phenomenal habitat just south of the farm we hunt in Avoyelles Parish. I keep hearing from others that "right now you can't put another duck on it," and for good reason given managed pressure, reportedly only hunting twice per week, and carefully managed food sources flooded up.

This morning I caught this episode from Daybreak Outdoors hunting at White Oaks Duck Woods in Arkansas. Just the same, someone with the means to, is providing protection/safety and food galore for a transient critter....giving them no reason to leave there.



Sure there's plenty mallards there, but a whole lot of everything else under the sun too. In my marsh we've got no food this season, and always fairly scarce on rest areas that arent disturbed. In the ag land area I hunt, there are multiple brand new blinds i've noticed this year, every piece of water is shooting at the birds. It's comparatively hellish versus what some others are doing for the birds.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Deltaman » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:39 am

Thanks for the video Darren, and what a huge "have" there!
There is a fellow hunter on the Fuge (da fowl slayer), located in TN, that manages his farm in a very similar manner. He only hunts every 4th day, and like the White Oak farm, he has plenty of rest areas that don't get hunted. His farm is only a tenth of the size of White Oak, but his success rate is very similar, as is his methodology for duck management.
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Thank You for compiling these numbers, and dammit man, the 2023 numbers tell the tale that we've all been seeing.
On a high note, looks like 1995 was a banner year for the area.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby DComeaux » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:56 am

With the low numbers of birds in the state, that type of operation is the only way to attract and hold concentrations birds.



Darren wrote: there are multiple brand new blinds I've noticed this year, every piece of water is shooting at the birds. It's comparatively hellish versus what some others are doing for the birds.


Your place reminds me a little of Cazan's, which is near your farm. I looked at leasing a blind in that place out of desperation over 10 years ago and didn't like what I saw. The blinds were close enough that your working birds would have to swing over someone else. I wasn't that desperate. I hate to see more blinds being put in at your place.

Pressure on our place seems ridiculous now but when I think about it every one of those blinds has been in it's current location for over 40 years. Back in the day it didn't seem to be an issue with everyone finishing quickly and getting out of the marsh. We just need more birds to make it here. Using Larry's numbers, the average over those years posted is 2.8 million birds with the max a @ 5.5, if I'm reading that correctly. This December we're at 1.1. That's a lot of missing fowl.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:57 am

Group text chatter this morning went something like as follows:

"Neighbor just got back from a group trip to Stuttgart. 6 guys hunting twice per day for 3 days killed a grand total of 10 ducks"
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:07 pm

Pretty enlightening on the matter of pressure driving ducks' daily habits/flights etc

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Re: State of the Season

Postby DComeaux » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:40 pm

Quoting Phil Robertson: " I'm not a mallard purest". It seems everything revolves around this park duck.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:13 am

As many of us already figured, data still being compiled, I'm sure more to come.

https://www.noaa.gov/news/us-had-its-wa ... -on-record


Meteorological winter (December 2023 – February 2024) | Year-to-date

Meteorological winter was the warmest winter on record for the contiguous U.S., with an average temperature of 37.6 degrees F — 5.4 degrees above average. Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Vermont and Wisconsin each had their warmest winter on record. Twenty-six additional states saw their top-10 warmest winters on record.



....not exactly migration-inducing.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Ducaholic » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:39 am

I'm of the strong belief that a normal winter would not have the same results it did in 2000 in terms of migration numbers. Specialized Habitat Options to our north like never before and spinning wing decoys killing off lots of the new hatch every year just makes it tough on everyone this far south.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:38 am

Finest bluewing drake specimen I've seen in person, hadn't seen one with the white going all the way down the back of the neck.

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Re: State of the Season

Postby Deltaman » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:29 pm

Beautiful birds for sure! Always love to see them this time of year when they come back thru in full color.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:28 pm

My Dad who duck hunted quite a bit in his day almost got in an argument with me. He had a pair of BWT land on his pond in the spring. He asked me what these ducks were and he described them. They were clearly a pair of BWT which I told him. He told me he'd shot a few BWT over the years. These were definitely not BWT. :lol: He had know idea what they looked like in their breeding plumage. They are pretty all dressed up for the dance.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Rick » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:32 pm

That's as nice as I've seen on the strap or from under the spring banding nets.

Years back a fellow who'd hunted with someone else approached me at the boat house and asked if I thought he should mount his banded teal, and I got to tell him he was a more apt to shoot others with bands than with a white mane like the one in hand. Similarly, had a fellow mention hoping for a decent mounting blue-wing just before this one showed up:
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:50 am

Neat story on Dale B. of Effie, la; didn't realize his waiting list had grown so large, to now over 2 years !

https://www.rfdtv.com/we-hit-the-blinds ... k88nSVcuLA

I think Ramsey just did another episode with him for podcast that should show up soon if not already.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Rick » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:34 am

Seems to enjoy playing to his niche, and reminds me some of Mervis in that regard.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:09 am

Glad to have a Chien Caille in my collection, my rice hunting mentor Mark L. had done for me back in '96 I think it was. Have a couple of Dale's calls, and sure enough much the same style and construction.


PS Thankful for this good rain today across LA, had started drying up pretty good.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby DComeaux » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:52 pm

Darren wrote: PS Thankful for this good rain today across LA, had started drying up pretty good.


It had. The wigeon grass is thankful.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:15 pm

Saskatchewan just can't seem to buy rain or snow, though this is as of a month ago:

https://deltawaterfowl.org/waterfowl-br ... WcZp80LOPK


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This is recent and looks pretty good in the US though:

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Re: State of the Season

Postby Duck Engr » Sun May 05, 2024 7:27 am

They’ve had some precip this week I think. But getting close to too late.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Mon May 13, 2024 1:16 pm

Seeing some surprisingly good pricing on shells online, relatively speaking. That is, you're not going to find $10/box of steel, but also seeing good many offerings middle of the road in the $16/box range for a 250-round case.

Rogers was where I was browsing
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Mike Jargon » Mon May 13, 2024 2:08 pm

Last week I purchased 6 cases of Federal Speed Shok 3” 1&1/4oz #1 steel for under $15 a box from Gman sports. Best deal online if you shoot blue box Federal steel.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Duck Engr » Mon May 13, 2024 2:26 pm

Thanks for the heads up fellas!
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Re: State of the Season

Postby SpinnerMan » Mon May 13, 2024 3:06 pm

Mike Jargon wrote:Last week I purchased 6 cases

600 rounds. That would last me a decades.

Actually bought a case of goose loads about a decade ago. I still have 2 or 3 boxes. I wasn't really thinking. 100 rounds of goose loads is probably about 80 geese for me. Not exactly high volume shooting like duck hunting can be, especially when we do our layout hunts where you can shoot a box in a day and not be embarrassed. Once, it took us a total of about 10 rounds to finish of one crippled bluebill :lol:
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Tue May 14, 2024 7:55 am

Mike Jargon wrote:Last week I purchased 6 cases of Federal Speed Shok 3” 1&1/4oz #1 steel for under $15 a box from Gman sports. Best deal online if you shoot blue box Federal steel.


https://rogerssportinggoods.com/federal ... teel-shot/

BUY 2 OR MORE FOR $129.99 EACH!


Not quite as good a deal but still cheaper than I'd have thought we'd see. NOTE: those are 8-box cases of standard 25 round boxes, not a standard 10-box case. Even so, though, pretty decent.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Rick » Tue May 14, 2024 9:09 am

Darren wrote:NOTE: those are 8-box cases of standard 25 round boxes, not a standard 10-box case.


Reminiscent of Purina's years of lowering bag weight to avoid more obvious price increases.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue May 14, 2024 9:11 am

My math was very wrong. I thought a case was 100 rounds, but I knew it was more than 4 boxes :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Tue May 14, 2024 10:16 am

Rick wrote:
Darren wrote:NOTE: those are 8-box cases of standard 25 round boxes, not a standard 10-box case.


Reminiscent of Purina's years of lowering bag weight to avoid more obvious price increases.


Shrinkflation at it's finest; the hallmark of Joe B's administration.
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Duck Engr » Tue May 14, 2024 3:39 pm

Darren wrote:
Rick wrote:
Darren wrote:NOTE: those are 8-box cases of standard 25 round boxes, not a standard 10-box case.


Reminiscent of Purina's years of lowering bag weight to avoid more obvious price increases.


Shrinkflation at it's finest; the hallmark of Joe B's administration.
Beat me to it!
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Re: State of the Season

Postby Darren » Thu May 16, 2024 9:24 am

Print it, banner flights coming off the US PPR this fall, stone cold lock! May pond counts to be off the chart! Lol


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Re: State of the Season

Postby Duck Engr » Thu May 16, 2024 7:18 pm

Certainly better than it was!
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