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SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:04 pm
by johnsinger
I am hoping that Ned or somebody can help me with this one. I do not have a great deal of experience with double barrel guns.

I have an older Wards Model 50 Hercules (Stevens 5100) 16 gauge SxS double. The gun does not owe me a dime. I purchased for $100 last summer at a garage sale. I am just playing with it and learning. I hope to use it for upland hunting some time.

It appears to have the standard modified choke right barrel and full choke left barrel.

The right barrel shoots to point of aim and patterns evenly. The left barrel shoots a very sketchy pattern and it impacts left and low. I can smoke clays consistently with the right barrel, I cannot hit anything with the left barrel.

The left barrel appears to have some minor damage at the muzzle. It had a rough spot on the very end of the muzzle. In addition, the left barrel does not appear to have a uniform thickness at the muzzle.

I am seeking advice as to how to correct the point of impact of the left barrel. I am willing to open the choke some.

Is it possible to adjust the POI from the muzzle with a ream or a polishing technique?

Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:55 pm
by jarbo03
My guess would be the choking is not centered in the barrel. A gunsmith should be able to straighten it up, as long as they center off the barrel and not the choke opening already there.

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Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:59 pm
by jarbo03
This is opening on my 16ga, had it opened and they did not center it, use a good gunsmith.

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Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:36 pm
by Tomkat
Yeah? That sucks.

My bargain muzzle loader has a stuck breech plug. Time for some PB Blaster.



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Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:49 pm
by assateague
TK, dumb some hydrogen peroxide in it, and let it stand in a corner for about an hour. Then dump that out, rinse it out quick, and dump in some Diet Coke, and let sit again. It will come right out.

Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:20 pm
by Tomkat
Thanks Jim!! Does it work good??


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Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:25 pm
by assateague
Yes. The peroxide will work on the black powder fouling, if that's what's got it locked up. The Diet Coke (it must be Diet Coke, name brand, don't know why) will work if it's rusted. I've done both, and yes, it works. Clean it very well afterwards, and oil the crap out of it. The peroxide especially will dry the barrel out.


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Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:25 am
by johnsinger
jarbo03 wrote:This is opening on my 16ga, had it opened and they did not center it, use a good gunsmith.

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Jarbo03, Does that gun shoot to point of aim? I do a lot of gunsmithing work. It may have been the barrel and not the gunsmith. Many, and likely most, shotguns do not uniform and straight barrels.

Re: SxS Point of Impact Issue Question

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:20 pm
by johnsinger
Just an update on this project gun of mine.

I did get the barrels to regulate. Both now shoot to point of aim. I first tried to open the left barrel slightly with an adjustable ream. The barrel was a full choke and I wanted open it to modified anyway. This brought the point of impact a few inches right but it was still off and low. I filed the muzzle flat across and ended up using a rotary stone in an electric drill to slightly "wow" the left hand barrel.

The left barrel now shoots a pattern that is a light modified and shoots perfectly to point of aim.

I have shot about a dozen rounds of skeet with the gun this summer and it shoots well.