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Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:14 pm
by assateague
Anybody have any idea what this is? Was a small tree in the way, had to cut it for the maple to have room to fall. These rounds are the trunk- not very big, maybe 12" diameter, 20' tall. Not dead, still green, and WILL NOT SPLIT. I split with a maul, and green wood of all flavored pops pretty easy. But not this. The split pic was about 4 shots from each end, but the grain is so twisted its almost circular inside. Miserable, miserable stuff.

Any ideas? The pictures make it look darker than it is- the bark is greenish, and the wood has a very yellow tint.
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Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:26 pm
by capt1972
you need a hydraulic splitter!

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:29 pm
by Flightstopper
I don't know a lot about trees but do you have much oak up there?

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:55 pm
by jehler
Iron wood

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:56 pm
by Olly
Ask Flint he's the grass and tree guy. I'm gonna guess the tree was sick at some point.

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Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:56 pm
by BrewGUN
jehler wrote:Iron wood

Burns long and hot

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:07 pm
by jehler
Ironwood is a nickname for a ton o woods, that looks like a Virginian type, hop horn something or other, have leaves yet or no?

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:18 pm
by assateague
Nope, no leaves. Straight as an arrow, with no branches at all until about 15 feet, then a small crown. I've given up. Tried a wedge and sledge, no dice. Full swing, with all the ass I've got behind a sharpened maul gets me this:
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Hardest shit I've ever hit.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:20 pm
by jehler
And heavy?

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:21 pm
by FlintRiverFowler
Olly wrote:Ask Flint he's the grass and tree guy. I'm gonna guess the tree was sick at some point.

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I can only identify a handful of trees and then only ones with leaves.


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Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:27 pm
by jehler
That's the wood I built jr's first bow with, almost a month of drawing, hatcheting and whittling, I don't recommend it

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:28 pm
by jehler
Bet Eric will know, maybe when he finishes smacking bullets he will drop in and take a look

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:37 pm
by Eric Haynes
jehler wrote:Bet Eric will know, maybe when he finishes smacking bullets he will drop in and take a look

Gettin drunk watching football. Smell it, tell me what it smells like. Its elm.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:44 pm
by assateague
jehler wrote:And heavy?


As fuck.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:46 pm
by assateague
Eric Haynes wrote:
jehler wrote:Bet Eric will know, maybe when he finishes smacking bullets he will drop in and take a look

Gettin drunk watching football. Smell it, tell me what it smells like. Its elm.


Not sure if this was a joke or not, but I did it. It smells sort of sweet like a very, very, very mild green apple scent, maybe mixed with a very very light cherry. Not "sappy" or "green" smelling at all. Can't even dent this shit.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:47 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:
jehler wrote:And heavy?


As fuck.

go out and smell the pulpwood

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:47 pm
by assateague
capt1972 wrote:you need a hydraulic splitter!


No way. Nobody has invented a workout that comes even close to cutting, splitting, and stacking wood.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:48 pm
by assateague
Eric Haynes wrote:
assateague wrote:
jehler wrote:And heavy?


As fuck.

go out and smell the pulpwood


I did.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:49 pm
by assateague
The one piece I split finally (the pic), the damn grain goes sideways, left, right, down, every which way.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:49 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
jehler wrote:Bet Eric will know, maybe when he finishes smacking bullets he will drop in and take a look

Gettin drunk watching football. Smell it, tell me what it smells like. Its elm.


Not sure if this was a joke or not, but I did it. It smells sort of sweet like a very, very, very mild green apple scent, maybe mixed with a very very light cherry. Not "sappy" or "green" smelling at all. Can't even dent this shit.

Rock elm. From what I see.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:51 pm
by assateague
Flightstopper wrote:I don't know a lot about trees but do you have much oak up there?


Not really. Some red, but mostly water oaks and pin oaks. But they're pretty straight grained.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:52 pm
by assateague
That's it for today. That other shit can wait.
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Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:53 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:The one piece I split finally (the pic), the damn grain goes sideways, left, right, down, every which way.

Yep, it could be something else, but i've never been able to split a piece of elm by hand. Smells how you describe also. Red elm is a little stronger with a silage smell to it.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:55 pm
by Eric Haynes
What do you usually cut for firewood besides the maple

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:59 pm
by assateague
80% silver maple, 10% oak, 10% cherry. We marked 4 really nice cherries today for next weekend, about 30" bases. I have a buddy that's got huge amounts of timber down, ready for cutting, but it's gonna be a pain in the ass to pick through all the gum and poplar. Might not be worth it, although I don't mind mixing in some gum if I have to.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:04 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:80% silver maple, 10% oak, 10% cherry. We marked 4 really nice cherries today for next weekend, about 30" bases. I have a buddy that's got huge amounts of timber down, ready for cutting, but it's gonna be a pain in the ass to pick through all the gum and poplar. Might not be worth it, although I don't mind mixing in some gum if I have to.

I like burning the hard maples semi green, cherry, and hickory. Green wood burns just about perfect in my boiler..so just about anything gets thrown into it.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:10 pm
by assateague
I'd live it if we had more hickory around here, but it's pretty rare. Cherry's nice, but I prefer a faster burning wood. I don't have a big enough fire box to take advantage of the slow, steady burn of cherry.

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:13 pm
by Eric Haynes
Cherry is probably the best wood for burning unsplit, which 90% of mine is. Suprised you dont have a wood boiler given your "lifestyle"

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:16 pm
by jehler
assateague wrote:That's it for today. That other shit can wait.
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Damn productive day! I've spent the whole day moping around the house with te damned gout, you called it

Re: Firewood Question

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:21 pm
by Eric Haynes
jehler wrote:
assateague wrote:That's it for today. That other shit can wait.
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Damn productive day! I've spent the whole day moping around the house with te damned gout, you called it

Gotta quit eating all that meat:grin: