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So I was thinking today about early goose season, and it came to mind, for some reason it never has before. We are allowed 16 in possession in early season, and only six during regular. Not that I practice this part of the law, but what if I was caught with those 16 in my freezer during regular season?

Eric Haynes wrote:So I was thinking today about early goose season, and it came to mind, for some reason it never has before. We are allowed 16 in possession in early season, and only six during regular. Not that I practice this part of the law, but what if I was caught with those 16 in my freezer during regular season?

The law is the law. Typically it states you may not have in possession on opening day more than one days limit.

Will they cite you? Don't know, but that's the way the law is wrote here.

Goldfish wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:So I was thinking today about early goose season, and it came to mind, for some reason it never has before. We are allowed 16 in possession in early season, and only six during regular. Not that I practice this part of the law, but what if I was caught with those 16 in my freezer during regular season?

The law is the law. Typically it states you may not have in possession on opening day more than one days limit.

Will they cite you? Don't know, but that's the way the law is wrote here.

Yeah it's cited the same here. but nothing in regards to the early seasons larger limits. I don't care about possession limit in the freezer anyways. Yeah, I could get in trouble for a freezer full of ducks and geese, but I've never worried about it. It also states you should not to eat more than one duck per month, so in reality, the possession limit should suffice all year for you unless you give them away

Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

whisperin' duck wrote:Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

Still the law. They aren't going to check them unless they have a reason to, but it's still in the books.

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

Still the law. They aren't going to check them unless they have a reason to, but it's still in the books.

You never speed? You always wear your seatbelt? You never walk across the street outside of a crosswalk? No one but the insured and allowed drivers on you insurance policy drive your truck? Do I need to keep going?

whisperin' duck wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

Still the law. They aren't going to check them unless they have a reason to, but it's still in the books.

You never speed? You always wear your seatbelt? You never walk across the street outside of a crosswalk? No one but the insured and allowed drivers on you insurance policy drive your truck? Do I need to keep going?

While I always wear my seat belt and don't speed, they are still laws. I think you are missing the point completely. Just because they are overlooked doesn't make them legal, no matter how many examples you type of where I break the law. I've already said I could care less about ever getting caught. I am just asking how they determine the possession limit in the regular season, when early season has a larger limit.

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

Still the law. They aren't going to check them unless they have a reason to, but it's still in the books.

You never speed? You always wear your seatbelt? You never walk across the street outside of a crosswalk? No one but the insured and allowed drivers on you insurance policy drive your truck? Do I need to keep going?

While I always wear my seat belt and don't speed, they are still laws. I think you are missing the point completely. Just because they are overlooked doesn't make them legal, no matter how many examples you type of where I break the law. I've already said I could care less about ever getting caught. I am just asking how they determine the possession limit in the regular season, when early season has a larger limit.

I mistook your question. I have no idea why the limit is higher during the early season. Unless, it has something to do with the short season, less hunters, etc. Just speculating there.

whisperin' duck wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:Lets all be honest here. How many game wardens have checked your freezers?

Still the law. They aren't going to check them unless they have a reason to, but it's still in the books.

You never speed? You always wear your seatbelt? You never walk across the street outside of a crosswalk? No one but the insured and allowed drivers on you insurance policy drive your truck? Do I need to keep going?

While I always wear my seat belt and don't speed, they are still laws. I think you are missing the point completely. Just because they are overlooked doesn't make them legal, no matter how many examples you type of where I break the law. I've already said I could care less about ever getting caught. I am just asking how they determine the possession limit in the regular season, when early season has a larger limit.

I mistook your question. I have no idea why the limit is higher during the early season. Unless, it has something to do with the short season, less hunters, etc. Just speculating there.

Might still be missing it. I'll explain it better.

At the end of September goose season I have 16 Canada geese in my possession, and it's legal as that is the possession limit. October 26th rolls around and I still have these same 16 geese, but the possession limit is only 6 here for regular season. I am now technically illegal as soon as the new season started, at least as how the regs state it.

I don't have any game in my freezer.

I have meat.

I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

Flightstopper wrote:I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

That's the way I see it as well. I think the possession limit is meant for morning and afternoon hunts. To keep people from hunting 2 hunts in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and shooting 4 limits in a day.

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whisperin' duck wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

That's the way I see it as well. I think the possession limit is meant for morning and afternoon hunts. To keep people from hunting 2 hunts in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and shooting 4 limits in a day.

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you can't shoot a limit in the morning and then another limit the same afternoon. possesion limit is twice the DAILY bag limit

Bufflehead wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

That's the way I see it as well. I think the possession limit is meant for morning and afternoon hunts. To keep people from hunting 2 hunts in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and shooting 4 limits in a day.

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you can't shoot a limit in the morning and then another limit the same afternoon. possesion limit is twice the DAILY bag limit

Hence my above statement

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Bufflehead wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

That's the way I see it as well. I think the possession limit is meant for morning and afternoon hunts. To keep people from hunting 2 hunts in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and shooting 4 limits in a day.

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you can't shoot a limit in the morning and then another limit the same afternoon. possesion limit is twice the DAILY bag limit

^^^This.
But an argument I had once was slightly different. I live near the OR/CA border, even though waterfowl is Federally regulated individual states set their own rules, why cant I shoot a CA limit in the morning, then an OR limit in the afternoon? CA tells me what I can shoot daily on their land, and OR on theirs.

I guess because the posession limit is a Federal rule??
I dont really care to argue over it, if I ever did it most likely I'd be the only one to know about.

Federal wardens are some of the dumbest people I've ever met.

assateague wrote:Federal wardens are some of the dumbest people I've ever met.

I've told this story before but I'll tell it again.
Short version:
My buddy and I were seniors in high school, we hunted in the morning and only killed a drake common merganser. We went home to eat, then went hunting again. When we got back to the boat launch the warden asked us a few questions, then followed with: "Where did you kill that 'Red-headed Merganser'? We told him we killed it down the river here this morning. He then told us that we must have killed it in CA because that is the only place 'Red-headed Mergansers' flew. "Are you sure you werent hunting in CA this morning?"

Maybe he should work at the zoo by you assa.

No kidding! I had one check me at Assateague a few years back, and look at my 2 buffies and a black duck drake. Told me I must have been feeling lucky, since "buffleheads and mallards usually only feed on corn over in the fields on the mainland, not over here in the marsh". So, so wrong on every count. I laughed because I thought he was joking. He wasn't. He did tell me that he had just been transferred down to the island from the Great Smoky National Park several weeks beforehand. Unless he was blind, he had to have seen 12,406 buffies in that timeframe. As for the "mallard", I would have loved to have a flock of black ducks fly over at that moment, so I could have dropped another and been close enough to legal to leave with two for the first time ever.

3legged_lab wrote:

Bufflehead wrote:

whisperin' duck wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:I spoke with a federal game warden last year on the specifics of the law. Of course this is only one opinion but he found it humerus that I was even concerned. He says that if you are under investigation of other charges and your home is inspected with a warrant then it would be become an issue. In a way just to build on stronger case on what they already have. He claimed it should be none of my concerned as long as all other regulations are followed.

That's the way I see it as well. I think the possession limit is meant for morning and afternoon hunts. To keep people from hunting 2 hunts in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and shooting 4 limits in a day.

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you can't shoot a limit in the morning and then another limit the same afternoon. possesion limit is twice the DAILY bag limit

^^^This.
But an argument I had once was slightly different. I live near the OR/CA border, even though waterfowl is Federally regulated individual states set their own rules, why cant I shoot a CA limit in the morning, then an OR limit in the afternoon? CA tells me what I can shoot daily on their land, and OR on theirs.

I guess because the posession limit is a Federal rule??
I dont really care to argue over it, if I ever did it most likely I'd be the only one to know about.

You can't shoot a limit in two states because the feds set the numbers and regs in the framework, not the states. You can how ever travel between flyways and if the second flyway you hunt has higher limit finish out to the total of that flyway. So go to a flyway with a 5 bird limt and shoot 5 and then go to Pac flyway and shoot 2 more for the total; of the pac flyway daily.
As for the possession limit, you can have in possession 2 daily limits upto the highest daily you hunted but, remember you're responsible for keepinhg track/record of when and where birds come from. You can't keep your 16 unless they were taken during thre season or from the area that allowed an 8 bird daily. And, before the question gets asked, that includes your migratory birds from Canada.

Eric Haynes wrote:So I was thinking today about early goose season, and it came to mind, for some reason it never has before. We are allowed 16 in possession in early season, and only six during regular. Not that I practice this part of the law, but what if I was caught with those 16 in my freezer during regular season?

You would have to die, no questions, no remorse, dead.

Wow, there is a lot of confusion in here, lol.

Eric, I think they'd want you to reduce your possession amount to below the regular season limits by the time the regular season rolls around. On the other hand, opening of duck season wouldn't technically be the opening of goose season, since you could already hunt geese, so there is a different angle to it? There might be some obscure rule somewhere about it, buried deep in the actual law books (the booklet you get at the sporting goods store is just a summary, the actual book is probably 6 inches thick). Best bet would be to write to your local G&F/DNR and ask them the specifics.

Whisperin, he was just curious how they decided how many you could have in the freezer in relation to higher limits for early season vs. regular season, not the probability of getting checked by the warden. The reason the limits are higher however is to reduce the number of resident birds that overpopulate YOUR area which is why limits for early season are set by the state and usually differ in different parts of the state (at least here in MN they do). You are right however that they have possession limits to make certain people don't go out for multiple limits in one day, even though there are daily limits, which is why the law states you may not have more than one days limit in possession on opening day, which is where the question comes into play about having birds still from the early season.


Clear as mud?

It was my intention that game had to be tagged, even in the freezer. This was never as easy with birds as with deer, since with deer you get a confirmation number, and then that little slip goes in the freezer. I just cleaned mine out this year- looked like a damn accountant's office in there.

DeadEye_Dan wrote:I don't have any game in my freezer.

I have meat.

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If you guys think that a cleaned bird (ready for cooking other than cooked) is still game, I guess you are in possession of that game bird until you poop it out and use all the energy/fat your body turned it into.





Maybe that's the way it is.

Here in OR, you can be a minor in possession of alcohol by possessing the alcohol within your body.





To do this you will need a spaghetti strainer, a drain, some warm water and a heel from a human foot.

step 1) Take the strainer and ...........

duckkillerclyde wrote:

DeadEye_Dan wrote:I don't have any game in my freezer.

I have meat.

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If you guys think that a cleaned bird (ready for cooking other than cooked) is still game, I guess you are in possession of that game bird until you poop it out and use all the energy/fat your body turned it into.

In MN if it's still in your freezer, it's still game. Technically, you are supposed to have the possession tag, or a gift letter, in your freezer with the venison till it's gone. Birds you are supposed to keep the number of them within your possession limit. That's why when you are hauling birds back from duck camp, you need wings attached, etc. They still count, even though you've cut them up. Same with fish, you are supposed to keep at least a 1x1 inch square of skin on the fillet so they can tell the species.

Do most people follow this once they get home? No. Could it bite them if the DNR was itchin to write them something? Yes. But at least in MN the DNR needs a reason to check, they can't just say "I get to" just because you have a license. Of course, how would they prove/you disprove that someone didn't "call in an anonymous tip" to give them probable cause to check.

Goldfish wrote:

duckkillerclyde wrote:

DeadEye_Dan wrote:I don't have any game in my freezer.

I have meat.

X2


If you guys think that a cleaned bird (ready for cooking other than cooked) is still game, I guess you are in possession of that game bird until you poop it out and use all the energy/fat your body turned it into.

In MN if it's still in your freezer, it's still game. Technically, you are supposed to have the possession tag, or a gift letter, in your freezer with the venison till it's gone. Birds you are supposed to keep the number of them within your possession limit. That's why when you are hauling birds back from duck camp, you need wings attached, etc. They still count, even though you've cut them up. Same with fish, you are supposed to keep at least a 1x1 inch square of skin on the fillet so they can tell the species.

Do most people follow this once they get home? No. Could it bite them if the DNR was itchin to write them something? Yes. But at least in MN the DNR needs a reason to check, they can't just say "I get to" just because you have a license. Of course, how would they prove/you disprove that someone didn't "call in an anonymous tip" to give them probable cause to check.

Goldie is right. There have been more posts on this subject than which shotgun is best. There have been several letters from USFWS posted over the years. The place where this always falls apart is that everyone wants to insist their state is different, it is not. All of the migratory regs are set by the feds and states can only make them more stringent not more lenient. Just as the seasons are set in the annual framework, of each flyway, and the states are allowed to work within that structure. For example, here in the Pac flyway, the season framework last year was a total of 107 days to hunt and, the available timeframe was Sept. to Jan. Some states started in september and end earlier and others start in October and run it right to the end of Jan.
Bottomline, if you give them a reason to search your house, they can expect all migratory game to be marked with the neccessary info. All gifted birds to family members etc, within the household, also fall under this reg.

QH's Paw wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

duckkillerclyde wrote:

DeadEye_Dan wrote:I don't have any game in my freezer.

I have meat.

X2


If you guys think that a cleaned bird (ready for cooking other than cooked) is still game, I guess you are in possession of that game bird until you poop it out and use all the energy/fat your body turned it into.

In MN if it's still in your freezer, it's still game. Technically, you are supposed to have the possession tag, or a gift letter, in your freezer with the venison till it's gone. Birds you are supposed to keep the number of them within your possession limit. That's why when you are hauling birds back from duck camp, you need wings attached, etc. They still count, even though you've cut them up. Same with fish, you are supposed to keep at least a 1x1 inch square of skin on the fillet so they can tell the species.

Do most people follow this once they get home? No. Could it bite them if the DNR was itchin to write them something? Yes. But at least in MN the DNR needs a reason to check, they can't just say "I get to" just because you have a license. Of course, how would they prove/you disprove that someone didn't "call in an anonymous tip" to give them probable cause to check.

Goldie is right. There have been more posts on this subject than which shotgun is best. There have been several letters from USFWS posted over the years. The place where this always falls apart is that everyone wants to insist their state is different, it is not. All of the migratory regs are set by the feds and states can only make them more stringent not more lenient. Just as the seasons are set in the annual framework, of each flyway, and the states are allowed to work within that structure. For example, here in the Pac flyway, the season framework last year was a total of 107 days to hunt and, the available timeframe was Sept. thru Jan. Some states started in september and end earlier and others start in October and run it right to the end of Jan.
Bottomline, if you give them a reason to search your house, they can expect all migratory game to be marked with the neccessary info. All gifted birds to family members etc, within the household, also fall under this reg.

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QH's Paw wrote:To better educate your young decaying mind. You coud have found this on your own but, I figured I'd help you.

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Exactly.

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