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Kid just went on a rampage with a knife and put a few kids in the ICU and hurt up to 20 more.

Olly wrote:http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/breaking-several-hurt-multiple-stabbings-franklin-/nfWYh/

Kid just went on a rampage with a knife and put a few kids in the ICU and hurt up to 20 more.

They are gonna need to start putting metal detectors in all schools. Really ridiculous, elementary, middle, high school and college. These crazy kids turn into crazier adults which is why I carry at all times.

It's interesting how the harder we as a society try to control everything...the less control there is.
I bet we could sell a lot of body armor to school aged kids in Pittsburg this week.
Their parents would be such easy sells. Could use the line "you want your child to be as safe as possible? Buy this."

Better start cracking down on knife regulation.

gila-river wrote:Better start cracking down on knife regulation.

Id like to see how that works out. The politicians wanted to change knife laws on planes cause it was to much of an inconvenience not getting to have one.

The Duck Hammer wrote:

gila-river wrote:Better start cracking down on knife regulation.

Id like to see how that works out. The politicians wanted to change knife laws on planes cause it was to much of an inconvenience not getting to have one.

Damnit. The problem is not a legal one that can be fixed with words on a paper (law) . If it were that easy Julius Caesar never would have been assassinated. The Romans had much more power than our govt does and they couldn't protect one man.
Give up on the whole idea of "we'll just make a new law".

yup! outlaw knives!! I can see it now, no blade capable of penetrating more than a 1/8th of an inch.

Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

capt1972 wrote:yup! outlaw knives!! I can see it now, no blade capable of penetrating more than a 1/8th of an inch.

They keep scissors in the office. Better hope the secretary don't get any crazy ideas. Imagine her slashing up kids as the school nurse goes around stapling everyone's wounds shut with the office stapler.
lol

capt1972 wrote:yup! outlaw knives!! I can see it now, no blade capable of penetrating more than a 1/8th of an inch.

Wonder what their stance on 80% blades will be?

The Duck Hammer wrote:

capt1972 wrote:yup! outlaw knives!! I can see it now, no blade capable of penetrating more than a 1/8th of an inch.

Wonder what their stance on 80% blades will be?

Good one.

You know, if we'd made similar comments in TOS we might get banned for making light of serious news.
Another reason this site is more better.

gila-river wrote:Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

Exactly. Which is why the focus needs to be on STOPPING it after it starts rather than preventing it. Because preventing it is a fool's errand, but allowing people to carry if they want is easily doable. But try telling that to some ivory tower liberal, with little grasp of reality.

Preventing=Impossible
Stopping=Easy

Now if half the teachers were cc'ing this would have ended after just a few kids were stabbed. I am surprised the media is even covering this since there was no gun involved.

assateague wrote:

gila-river wrote:Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

Exactly. Which is why the focus needs to be on STOPPING it after it starts rather than preventing it. Because preventing it is a fool's errand, but allowing people to carry if they want is easily doable. But try telling that to some ivory tower liberal, with little grasp of reality.

Preventing=Impossible
Stopping=Easy

Damn straight. I bitch plenty about AZ. But I never go out with my family in fear of being shot up in a mall or movie theatre because it can guarantee myself and others will be shooting back.

assateague wrote:

gila-river wrote:Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

Exactly. Which is why the focus needs to be on STOPPING it after it starts rather than preventing it. Because preventing it is a fool's errand, but allowing people to carry if they want is easily doable. But try telling that to some ivory tower liberal, with little grasp of reality.

Preventing=Impossible
Stopping=Easy

Woa, woa, woa...where's the profit in that solution? EVERYTHING must profit or it's not worth doing.
No profits? IT AIN'T HAPPENING. The kernel of this entire 'violence' problem is that people aren't satisfied and freak out when they perceive that there are no viable solutions to their problems and needs. So they "go postal" at the school.

Crime prevention is big business. How dare you try and say it's futile. @
They can probably prove someone somewhere prevented a crime once.

"Bullying" is the big buzz-word this year so I'd bet the news media will somehow tie this crime to that issue.

assateague wrote:

gila-river wrote:Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

Exactly. Which is why the focus needs to be on STOPPING it after it starts rather than preventing it. Because preventing it is a fool's errand, but allowing people to carry if they want is easily doable. But try telling that to some ivory tower liberal, with little grasp of reality.

Preventing=Impossible
Stopping=Easy

Can't agree more.

You know, the thing that bothers me the most is I, and probably many people, am not surprised things like these are happening anymore. It's almost like you expect it every week; some other mentally disturbed idiot went on a rampage, it's something new every week. It's really disturbing...

R. Chapman wrote:You know, the thing that bothers me the most is I, and probably many people, am not surprised things like these are happening anymore. It's almost like you expect it every week; some other mentally disturbed idiot went on a rampage, it's something new every week. It's really disturbing...

The last time I had a crime committed against me...the cop said something profound. She said that I needed to quit being a victim.

In other words it was my fault my shit got stolen and all the responsibility was on me. "Go away, you bother me".

That's the problem and the thing that cop didn't realize was that she REALLY pissed me off and I had 8 more guns.
Lucky for you guys I'm not as crazy as you think.

assateague wrote:

gila-river wrote:Someone bent on hurting people is going to do it. One way or another.

Exactly. Which is why the focus needs to be on STOPPING it after it starts rather than preventing it. Because preventing it is a fool's errand, but allowing people to carry if they want is easily doable. But try telling that to some ivory tower liberal, with little grasp of reality.

Preventing=Impossible
Stopping=Easy

While I agree with you (mostly), there is a need in our country for a review of our mental health system.

It cant be prevented by outlawing inanimate objects, but clearly anyone willing to commit crimes like this is mentally unstable, and some of them could be prevented if you were not handicapped by laws regarding the insane.

Some, yes. But what happens when one happens? I know of NO situation like this that is not stopped by anything other than someone with a gun. So why not let people carry? The fact is, the quicker a gun in a good guy's hand shows up, whether cop or bystander, the quicker these things stop. Treat mental illness, lock up the crazy, put up metal detectors, I don't care. But don't attempt to legislate guns out of the hands of those who can stop this.

assateague wrote:Some, yes. But what happens when one happens? I know of NO situation like this that is not stopped by anything other than someone with a gun. So why not let people carry? The fact is, the quicker a gun in a good guy's hand shows up, whether cop or bystander, the quicker these things stop. Treat mental illness, lock up the crazy, put up metal detectors, I don't care. But don't attempt to legislate guns out of the hands of those who can stop this.

No, disagreement there.

assateague wrote:Some, yes. But what happens when one happens? I know of NO situation like this that is not stopped by anything other than someone with a gun. So why not let people carry? The fact is, the quicker a gun in a good guy's hand shows up, whether cop or bystander, the quicker these things stop. Treat mental illness, lock up the crazy, put up metal detectors, I don't care. But don't attempt to legislate guns out of the hands of those who can stop this.

Haven't you been to DC?!?! I don't want the whole world metal detectored up like that. Load of fucking bullshit that was explaining that boots have steel in them and being patted down every time I wanted to enter a building. No thank you.

If that meant I could legally carry a gun to protect my family anywhere, anytime, yes.

assateague wrote:If that meant I could legally carry a gun to protect my family anywhere, anytime, yes.

So we would be talking open carry only, since concealed would be rendered useless.

How would they be rendered useless? I'm missing your point. Or you're missing mine. 50/50™.

assateague wrote:How would they be rendered useless? I'm missing your point. Or you're missing mine. 50/50™.

If every time you go into a building you have to pull your gun and show them your ID. Its not concealed anymore. People around you know its there. I highly doubt it'll be a flash your Concealed Carry Card and they'll just take it at that and let you move along after you set off the alarm.

Oh, I see your point.

True, but if some lunatic comes in shooting, he'll have no clue who has a gun and who doesn't, since it'll go back in your carry holster. And if it was easy, chances are pretty good that he'd be either shot dead or keeping his head down, thereby rendered useless, if more people had guns.

I see that viewpoint as well.

How did this thread go this far without anyone posting this?
Y'all gotta step it up. Disappointing me.

aunt betty wrote:How did this thread go this far without anyone posting this?

Probably because a bunch of kids getting stabbed isn't something to joke around about! Just a guess.