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Wow. Great post.

Had to go watch it in you tube. I had never heard that speech before. Damn was it good. Good stuff AT.

Damn that was powerful. Kick started my day for sure

Sounds like Reagan was warning us about Obama !!

It's a great speech. It would have been a little more inspirational if it hadn't been delivered by a guy that served in the "First Motion Picture Unit" and never left the continental US during his time of service.

As opposed to our current president?

Reagan was a big swinging dick. Scared the fuck out of every other nations leaders. No one fucked with Ron.

Glimmerjim wrote:It's a great speech. It would have been a little more inspirational if it hadn't been delivered by a guy that served in the "First Motion Picture Unit" and never left the continental US during his time of service.

Considering the current President and the previous democrat President weren't in any part of the military I would say to have served, in any capacity, trumps those that didn't.

Sadly, Reagan was the last Presidential candidate I voted for. Since then I've only voted against what I've felt the worst of our options.

GadwallGetter530 wrote:Reagan was a big swinging dick. Scared the fuck out of every other nations leaders. No one fucked with Ron.

Strange, but I was named for him.

assateague wrote:As opposed to our current president?

As opposed to no one except himself. Are we back to comparing the lesser of evils now? It certainly never flies when I try to compare Obama's performance to that of previous presidents.

GadwallGetter530 wrote:Reagan was a big swinging ****. Scared the **** out of every other nations leaders. No one **** with Ron.

Charles Manson scared a lot of folks, too.

Reagan ended the cold war with power, Oboma has brought it back with weakness. Dam shame.

Glimmerjim wrote:

assateague wrote:As opposed to our current president?

As opposed to no one except himself. Are we back to comparing the lesser of evils now? It certainly never flies when I try to compare Obama's performance to that of previous presidents.

No. Because what you were stating was that because he didn't serve overseas, that that somehow detracted from the speech. Implying that a person's words are judged through the filter of what they have done in their lives up to that point. So based on that, I felt that it was more than relevant to bring up the current occupant of the white house.



If you can find anything that Obama has even done, job performance related or otherwise, feel free to compare it to Reagan.

Reagan was a bad ass.

Glimmerjim wrote:

GadwallGetter530 wrote:Reagan was a big swinging ****. Scared the **** out of every other nations leaders. No one **** with Ron.

Charles Manson scared a lot of folks, too.

I don't even know how to respond to that. That's was completely out of "left" field. Comparing one of our greatest presidents to a serial killer. Good for you.

GadwallGetter530 wrote:

Glimmerjim wrote:

GadwallGetter530 wrote:Reagan was a big swinging ****. Scared the **** out of every other nations leaders. No one **** with Ron.

Charles Manson scared a lot of folks, too.

I don't even know how to respond to that. That's was completely out of "left" field. Comparing one of our greatest presidents to a serial killer. Good for you.

hey now, Chuck never killed any of them people.

outboardman wrote:Reagan ended the cold war with power, Oboma has brought it back with weakness. Dam shame.

i have been know to worship at the alter of Ronald Reagan from time to time,but there are a lot of people responsible for the end of the cold war. its wasnt Ronnie himself



Jim thanks for posting this.i had all but forgotten it

GadwallGetter530 wrote:

Glimmerjim wrote:

GadwallGetter530 wrote:Reagan was a big swinging ****. Scared the **** out of every other nations leaders. No one **** with Ron.

Charles Manson scared a lot of folks, too.

I don't even know how to respond to that. That's was completely out of "left" field. Comparing one of our greatest presidents to a serial killer. Good for you.

It was implied that he "scared" others into submission. You can control people through fear or respect. Apparently, according to your post, Reagan, Edie Amin, and Charles Manson used similar techniques. I don't think they create lasting powers of persuasion or are models worth emulating.

Glimmerjim wrote:

assateague wrote:As opposed to our current president?

As opposed to no one except himself. Are we back to comparing the lesser of evils now? It certainly never flies when I try to compare Obama's performance to that of previous presidents.

"Obama's performance" might imply he had done something worth noting. Oh, that's right, there was that little stint as community organizer, in shytown.

Reagan had a sense of mission before almost anything else and was reluctant to allow anyone to hold America or the American people hostage to their demands. Witness the Air Traffic Controllers in '79 or '80 (exact dates escape me, but during the time of my second wife).

QH's Paw wrote:

Glimmerjim wrote:

assateague wrote:As opposed to our current president?

As opposed to no one except himself. Are we back to comparing the lesser of evils now? It certainly never flies when I try to compare Obama's performance to that of previous presidents.

"Obama's performance" might imply he had done something worth noting. Oh, that's right, there was that little stint as community organizer, in shytown.

Oh, the wails of desperation are woeful to the spirit.
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He who is most disparaging is battling from a position of futility.

Not really. Passive-aggressive has never worked on me, it just generally makes me chuckle.

And it is a valid point that somebody made, although unrelated- Manson didn't kill anybody, to the best of my knowledge. If getting weak-minded people to do what you say is a crime, then the large majority of politicians should be in jail as well.

Rick wrote:Sadly, Reagan was the last Presidential candidate I voted for. Since then I've only voted against what I've felt the worst of our options.

That's exactly how my dad puts it.

I am willing to bet a fair amount of cash that within two years or so after leaving office, Obama and Holder are both indicted on some pretty serious charges. Mark my words.

assateague wrote:And it is a valid point that somebody made, although unrelated- Manson didn't kill anybody, to the best of my knowledge. If getting weak-minded people to do what you say is a crime, then the large majority of politicians should be in jail as well.

I often wondered why he was the most villified person on earth, myself. Sure, like you say he orchestrated some pretty terrible things, but there are plenty of serial killers out there who actually wielded a weapon, acted alone, and did far more gruesome acts. Look at John Wayne Gacy. I guess it had to do with his targets. I saw a show once where they showed the artwork he does while incarcerated (plenty of time on his hands ) Pretty freakin' wild stuff that I guess everyone, including the CO's, try to smuggle out of the prison to sell!

waterfowlman wrote:I am willing to bet a fair amount of cash that within two years or so after leaving office, Obama and Holder are both indicted on some pretty serious charges. Mark my words.

Consider them marked, WFM! If so, Obama at least would just get a presidential pardon. You get on that level and you don't pay for your crimes.