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OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

Personally, I think you have too many other animals running around to use poison. Wrap that place up with snap traps and nibble away on the rat population. Small live traps will sometimes catch the trap wise rodents.

AT, most of the new store bought poisons are basically just blood thinners. The mice/rats bleed out internally. I don't know about with dogs but we had a rat poison scare with my youngest son and poison control/911 said it was their most common call and unless he ate an entire box just give him some water.

waterfowlman wrote:Personally, I think you have too many other animals running around to use poison. Wrap that place up with snap traps and nibble away on the rat population. Small live traps will sometimes catch the trap wise rodents.

This was my thought, too, but with that bitch having babies running around, I might get behind the curve pretty quickly. There's no food in there at all, so I have no fucking clue why they're even in my shop. No horse feed anywhere, either, because they just get hay. I don't get it.

gila-river wrote:AT, most of the new store bought poisons are basically just blood thinners. The mice/rats bleed out internally. I don't know about with dogs but we had a rat poison scare with my youngest son and poison control/911 said it was their most common call and unless he ate an entire box just give him some water.

Thanks, I'll check in to this.

waterfowlman wrote:Personally, I think you have too many other animals running around to use poison. Wrap that place up with snap traps and nibble away on the rat population. Small live traps will sometimes catch the trap wise rodents.

Not sure traps will work for a couple of reasons: First, the rats own Jim and secondly, Jim has sworn that he wouldn't use poison because poison is for pussies or some such.

I think that he is going to have to resort to flood, fire or magic spells to get rid of the rats......

Sounds like with the anticoagulants, the main danger to dogs is from directly digesting the poision. It does have some warnings about "outside dogs" chasing and killing rodents that have eaten the poison. Havent found anything about how long the poison stays in the carcass...


http://www.petmd.com/dog/emergency/dige ... _poisoning

At my house in Fort Lauderdale I would get those big river rats running through the yard. Sometimes I caught them in the big Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. I also bought a couple of small, galvanized hardware cloth live traps from the local hardware store and baited them with hot dog slices and bacon. Whenever I caught one of those big sonofabitches in the live trap, they got the Navy Seal test. Ten minutes underwater in a garbage pail.....those fuckers always failed the test...everyone of them.
I loved those small victories!!

gila-river wrote:AT, most of the new store bought poisons are basically just blood thinners. The mice/rats bleed out internally. I don't know about with dogs but we had a rat poison scare with my youngest son and poison control/911 said it was their most common call and unless he ate an entire box just give him some water.

Your backwards on this actually. My dog ate some rat poison at another golf corse shop last summer. The old rat poisons were blood thinners and much easier for a pet to survive if ingested. The new ones are actually neurotoxins that year down the animals nervous system. Much quicker death. Completely different treatment for accidental injection and much higher risk of killing your dog.

Mother fuck my autocorrect.

assateague wrote:OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

What the hell are your barn cats for?!?!?!?!?!?!

Bulldog0156 wrote:

assateague wrote:OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

What the hell are your barn cats for?!?!?!?!?!?!

Google: "How rat poison works" and then Google "Can poisoned rat kill dogs"

waterfowlman wrote:At my house in Fort Lauderdale I would get those big river rats running through the yard. Sometimes I caught them in the big Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. I also bought a couple of small, galvanized hardware cloth live traps from the local hardware store and baited them with hot dog slices and bacon. Whenever I caught one of those big sonofabitches in the live trap, they got the Navy Seal test. Ten minutes underwater in a garbage pail.....those fuckers always failed the test...everyone of them.
I loved those small victories!!

Someone I know caught a racoon in a live trap, next to the pond, where the coon had been eating some of their fish. Let's just say the coon shook the cage trap enough that it slipped into the pond.(there may have been a boot involved, allegedly). This particular coon also failed the navy seal test. Allegedly.

RonE wrote:

Bulldog0156 wrote:

assateague wrote:OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

What the hell are your barn cats for?!?!?!?!?!?!

Google: "How rat poison works" and then Google "Can poisoned rat kill dogs"

I got that. Now google "how long is a rat-poisoned rat poisonous". It can't be "forever".

Bulldog0156 wrote:

assateague wrote:OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

What the hell are your barn cats for?!?!?!?!?!?!

For the barn and yard. I don't want those fuckers shitting in my shop.

assateague wrote:

Bulldog0156 wrote:

assateague wrote:OK, fellas, I've googled and googled, but have either not searched the right words, or there isn't much info.

Here's my question- how long after rats are poisoned is the little rat corpse toxic? Does the ingested poison get broken down by the body, thus killing it, or does it remain in there pretty much forever? I need to get rid of those rats, and was ready to put poison in the holes, but then I read a lot that says the rats will come out to die, possibly looking for water or something. And if there are dead rats in the yard, the digs will pick them up. Don't think they'd eat them, and I'm almost certain the barn cats won't eat them if they didn't kill them, but am trying to avoid any ugly issues or expensive vet trips for the hounds. I've asked the vet, and he doesn't have an answer, either, as to how long the corpses are toxic.

Anybody with any experience or knowledge, feel free to drop it on me. These rodents need to go away. Thanks!

What the hell are your barn cats for?!?!?!?!?!?!

For the barn and yard. I don't want those fuckers shitting in my shop.

Put a litter box in there and lock the cats inside.

I'll ask my IPM guy on Tuesday. If anyone knows, that guy will.

Thanks man!

And flint, one of the cats is getting locked in tonight. I've decided a little cat shit is better than a lot of rats

What would happen if you set off a bunch of insect foggers in there. I mean when you set them off you're supposed to get the hell out and stay out for a while. Seems like it would fuck some rats up if its harmful to humans. I'd say set about 8-10 foggers off in there and then wait to see if the rats come bailing out. Shoot or club them as they come out.

Even if the poison did stay poisonous forever, the rat carcass won't stay edible very long. Also, let's say the rat eats enough to kill it, the rat now contains enough poison to kill another rat sized animal assuming it eats the whole carcass. I could be wrong, but I think a cat would have to eat it's own weight in poisoned rat carcasses to enter the danger zone.

But this is the internet, so, bonjour.

flight control wrote:Even if the poison did stay poisonous forever, the rat carcass won't stay edible very long. Also, let's say the rat eats enough to kill it, the rat now contains enough poison to kill another rat sized animal assuming it eats the whole carcass. I could be wrong, but I think a cat would have to eat it's own weight in poisoned rat carcasses to enter the danger zone.

But this is the internet, so, bonjour.

My moms boss recently lost his dog to eating a poisoned rat.

Well, there goes my theory. Sounds like that stuff is way stronger than it needs to be.

flight control wrote:Even if the poison did stay poisonous forever, the rat carcass won't stay edible very long. Also, let's say the rat eats enough to kill it, the rat now contains enough poison to kill another rat sized animal assuming it eats the whole carcass. I could be wrong, but I think a cat would have to eat it's own weight in poisoned rat carcasses to enter the danger zone.

But this is the internet, so, bonjour.

I dont think he's concerned with the cats eating them.

Burn the fucker down. Kill them all!

Can't you use one of your ground hog smoke bombs and just stay out of the shop for alongfuckingtime?

I hate to use such a nasty word, but why don't you "pay" someone to get rid of the rats? There are professionals out there you know. Doesn't look like the rats are going to let you catch them. This reminds me a lot of the old Road Runner cartoons where you are Wiley Coyote.

RonE wrote:I hate to use such a nasty word, but why don't you "pay" someone to get rid of the rats? There are professionals out there you know. Doesn't look like the rats are going to let you catch them. This reminds me a lot of the old Road Runner cartoons where you are Wiley Coyote.

I am a "professional"

You scared the shot outa me with that pic, Jim! I started to scroll down and all I saw was a hairy dudeleg. Almost threw my phone

That was a fine missed opportunity to sneak another one of those cock pics in here.