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Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:43 am
by banknote
I've known the beach here gives up artifacts, but this is my first confirmed score. As she lay when I spotted her this morning. Small, about 1x3/8". It's fascinating in so many ways.
arrowhead_14-0719.JPG

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:45 am
by assateague
That's pretty dang awesome! Never found anything like that.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:49 am
by banknote
assateague wrote:That's pretty dang awesome! Never found anything like that.

Me neither! I can't stop looking at it.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:57 am
by assateague
I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:18 pm
by jarbo03
That is very cool. A few years ago in MT, my uncle gave me some knapping tools he made, and showed me how to use them, also gave me a nice chunk of obsidium. He killed a buffalo with his hand made long bow, strung with deer sinew, and a arrowhead he carved, shot 5 bear with same outfit and metal broadheads.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:21 pm
by 3legged_lab
That's pretty cool Ed, its got a unique shape to it.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:36 pm
by gila-river
I've done some serious arrowhead hunting and found some pretty cool ones, but, nothing as pristine as that! Awesome find.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:01 pm
by bill herian
If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:02 pm
by jarbo03
bill herian wrote:If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.


Cavemen had them, I've seen the commercials.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:16 pm
by 3legged_lab
bill herian wrote:If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.

They didnt go extinct, just got relocated out west and southwest.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:20 pm
by AKPirate
3legged_lab wrote:
bill herian wrote:If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.

They didnt go extinct, just got relocated out west and southwest.


That's what killed off all the dinos.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:24 pm
by assateague
Pretty sure the casinos and cheap smokes killed the dinosaurs.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:10 pm
by bill herian
3legged_lab wrote:
bill herian wrote:If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.

They didnt go extinct, just got relocated out west and southwest.


Fine, they're 'Wisconsin extinct'.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:22 pm
by Rick
assateague wrote:I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.


Slick thing to me is that it's really an arrow head when most of the stuff we find and think is that is really something else. Last place I lived in college backed up to a huge cornfield that was once an indian encampment at the confluence of the Ohio and one of her tributaries. That cornfield yielded treasures to those willing to walk freshly chisel plowed ground after a hard rain, and I found mostly plow broken fragments of scrapers and spear points, but never a whole honest to gosh arrowhead.

My favorite find was also flawed, but not, I don't think, by the plow. It was a very finely chipped 2" by 1" likely spear point-to-be that wasn't quite finished and had lost a lobe of the part to be lashed to the spear. My, perhaps romanticized, guess was that it was accidentally broken before completion, and the maker was so frustrated that he threw the piece, rather than refashioning it into a smaller tip. That was the only artifact I held onto when I gave the rest away, just because that notion pleased me so. Wish I knew what's become of it.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:32 pm
by AKPirate
That's a nice find. My Mom's side of the family had fire rings on their property in Montana and found many points, arrowflints, and scrapers there. There a lot more out there than people think.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:48 pm
by QH's Paw
Nice! :thumbsup:

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:34 pm
by quackhead
Sweet find!

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:27 pm
by Redbeard
banknote wrote:I've known the beach here gives up artifacts, but this is my first confirmed score. As she lay when I spotted her this morning. Small, about 1x3/8". It's fascinating in so many ways.
arrowhead_14-0719.JPG
very cool bank. Very cool

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:27 pm
by Redbeard
assateague wrote:I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.
x2

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:09 pm
by banknote
assateague wrote:I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.

No doubt. I'm amazed by how small it is and how fine the detail and near symmetry. Not the work of a novice.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:58 pm
by banknote
bill herian wrote:If the injuns shot mechanicals they wouldn't have gone extinct.

Actually, I don't think mechanicals would have done much good against the epidemic that wiped out most of the previous occupants of this particular island.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:02 pm
by banknote
jarbo03 wrote:That is very cool. A few years ago in MT, my uncle gave me some knapping tools he made, and showed me how to use them, also gave me a nice chunk of obsidium. He killed a buffalo with his hand made long bow, strung with deer sinew, and a arrowhead he carved, shot 5 bear with same outfit and metal broadheads.

That's pretty awesome.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:04 pm
by banknote
Rick wrote:
assateague wrote:I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.


Slick thing to me is that it's really an arrow head when most of the stuff we find and think is that is really something else. Last place I lived in college backed up to a huge cornfield that was once an indian encampment at the confluence of the Ohio and one of her tributaries. That cornfield yielded treasures to those willing to walk freshly chisel plowed ground after a hard rain, and I found mostly plow broken fragments of scrapers and spear points, but never a whole honest to gosh arrowhead.

My favorite find was also flawed, but not, I don't think, by the plow. It was a very finely chipped 2" by 1" likely spear point-to-be that wasn't quite finished and had lost a lobe of the part to be lashed to the spear. My, perhaps romanticized, guess was that it was accidentally broken before completion, and the maker was so frustrated that he threw the piece, rather than refashioning it into a smaller tip. That was the only artifact I held onto when I gave the rest away, just because that notion pleased me so. Wish I knew what's become of it.

I've been keeping my eyes on the ground for most of my life, but this is the first intact arrowhead I've found. I have lots of what look to be flakes or partly worked/broken pieces, but nothing like this.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:18 pm
by waterfowlman
Very neat find (treasure!) Banknote. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:39 pm
by Botiz630
banknote wrote:
Rick wrote:
assateague wrote:I just think about the skill to make something like that, and what that broadhead has seen. Very impressive to me.


Slick thing to me is that it's really an arrow head when most of the stuff we find and think is that is really something else. Last place I lived in college backed up to a huge cornfield that was once an indian encampment at the confluence of the Ohio and one of her tributaries. That cornfield yielded treasures to those willing to walk freshly chisel plowed ground after a hard rain, and I found mostly plow broken fragments of scrapers and spear points, but never a whole honest to gosh arrowhead.

My favorite find was also flawed, but not, I don't think, by the plow. It was a very finely chipped 2" by 1" likely spear point-to-be that wasn't quite finished and had lost a lobe of the part to be lashed to the spear. My, perhaps romanticized, guess was that it was accidentally broken before completion, and the maker was so frustrated that he threw the piece, rather than refashioning it into a smaller tip. That was the only artifact I held onto when I gave the rest away, just because that notion pleased me so. Wish I knew what's become of it.

I've been keeping my eyes on the ground for most of my life, but this is the first intact arrowhead I've found. I have lots of what look to be flakes or partly worked/broken pieces, but nothing like this.


My understanding is that the stone points would often break on the first use, rarely lasting long at all. An intact one is probably pretty rare. Sweet find.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:40 pm
by ducks~n~bucks
That thing is bad juju.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:51 pm
by Redbeard
ducks~n~bucks wrote:That thing is bad juju.
you believe in juju huh

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:00 pm
by waterfowlman
ducks~n~bucks wrote:That thing is bad juju.


Only if it's sticking in you.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:15 pm
by ducks~n~bucks
Redbeard wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:That thing is bad juju.
you believe in juju huh


Everytime my dad or I has picked one of them up on any camping/hunting/fishing trip, it has cursed the whole trip.

Re: Ground score

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:57 pm
by gila-river
I had a buddy who ended up breaking a bone Labor Day weekend for 4 years running. He had some serious bad juju. Won't do shit that weekend still.