Thought it might be interesting to show some forum overlap.
The beekeepers argue about which extractors to get.
http://www.beesource.com/forums/showthr ... ost1551295
If I get up in there and say that the Italian one costs $500 less and is actually a fine machine they'll probably kick me out because one of the companies is a sponsor. (not the Italian one)
My Italian shotgun kicks ass on the american one.