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Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:45 pm
by jarbo03
Got Taz out for the first time since hunting season closed, was a little rusty but was having much needed fun. Set up a 150 yard blind before leaving, cast wasnt good but job was accomplished.


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Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:46 pm
by Woody
video is set to private

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:51 pm
by jarbo03
Woody wrote:video is set to private


Should work now.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:08 pm
by Flightstopper
Good stuff Taz! That's a hell of a whistle!

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:05 pm
by jarbo03
Flightstopper wrote:Good stuff Taz! That's a hell of a whistle!


Ha. Duck Commander drake whistle, but my phone was beeping cause my battery was goin dead.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:06 pm
by Redbeard
Good deal Jerry

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:07 pm
by Flightstopper
jarbo03 wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:Good stuff Taz! That's a hell of a whistle!


Ha. Duck Commander drake whistle, but my phone was beeping cause my battery was goin dead.


Yella dog bailed off the couch and took off straight to the bedroom. Dog still hates strange recorded noises lol

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:39 am
by RonE
I noticed you asked the dog to "Mark" the blind and sent the dog on "Back". Which I find a little odd. Are you using "Mark" to get the dog excited?

On marked birds, I usually send the dog on the dogs name ("Wendy" in my case) and on blinds, send the dog on "Back".

Great video of a nice looking dog.

Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:39 am
by Redbeard
RonE wrote:I noticed you asked the dog to "Mark" the blind and sent the dog on "Back". Which I find a little odd. Are you using "Mark" to get the dog excited?

On marked birds, I usually send the dog on the dogs name ("Wendy" in my case) and on blinds, send the dog on "Back".

Great video of a nice looking dog.
when I line Charlie or Cadee up on a blind I'll tell em to mark. Did it outta habit after throwing marks for Charlie when he was younger. Is it wrong? Dunno. But on those occasions when I heel em and they're alittle loose, a little "Mark" perks em up, draws their attention and lines their nose with their spine. But I do give a "back" command on blinds and their name on marks.

If its wrong and anyone can give me sound reasoning behind it, I'll gladly change what I do

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:47 am
by jarbo03
Flightstopper wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:Good stuff Taz! That's a hell of a whistle!


Ha. Duck Commander drake whistle, but my phone was beeping cause my battery was goin dead.


Yella dog bailed off the couch and took off straight to the bedroom. Dog still hates strange recorded noises lol



Ha. Damn Yella dog!

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:53 am
by jarbo03
RonE wrote:I noticed you asked the dog to "Mark" the blind and sent the dog on "Back". Which I find a little odd. Are you using "Mark" to get the dog excited?

On marked birds, I usually send the dog on the dogs name ("Wendy" in my case) and on blinds, send the dog on "Back".

Great video of a nice looking dog.


Thanks Ron. I have always done the same as Redbeard stated. Use his name if he sees it the mark, back on a blind. Also open to suggestions. This isn't something we've spent much time on, and I'm not much of a retriever trainer. After NAVHDA tests i plan to join HRC so i can learn more.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:59 am
by Olly
I do like Ron does. On a watched mark I release on his name because he's already so tense wanting to go get it his legs shake. On a blind retrieve I give a back command.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:29 am
by Deltaman
Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:40 am
by Olly
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:58 am
by Tomkat
jarbo03 wrote:
Thanks Ron. I have always done the same as Redbeard stated. Use his name if he sees it the mark, back on a blind. Also open to suggestions. This isn't something we've spent much time on, and I'm not much of a retriever trainer. After NAVHDA tests i plan to join HRC so i can learn more.


I think you are a pretty good retriever trainer. I know the perfectionist in you will settle for nothing less than....perfect.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:16 am
by Goldfish
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 am
by Olly
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:36 am
by jarbo03
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:37 am
by FlintRiverFowler
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to woek on this.

Fuuuuuuuck

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:39 am
by jarbo03
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to woek on this.

Fuuuuuuuck



Tapatalk is awesome!

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:49 am
by Redbeard
Olly wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.
have you tried eliminating it with the collar?

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:54 am
by Olly
Redbeard wrote:
Olly wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.
have you tried eliminating it with the collar?


Yes but it seems to discourage him on the drive rather than press the point of not stopping.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:13 pm
by Rick
Olly wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.


Seems to me we've discussed this before. Might once have been that he just wasn't well conditioned to believe taking the line would get him to the bird and needed more conditioning to that end. But by this point that's compounded by him probably believing he's doing the right thing, which you're inadvertently reinforcing it by responding with another cue.

Generally when a pup that understands taking a line leads to success pops up close like that, the best thing you can do is nothing at all. Just wait him out, and he'll eventually spin and continue back. But when you honor a pop with a handle, you're conditioning the pop.

Were your dog mine, I'd stick my hands in my back pockets and go back to square one of teaching blind retrieves according to whatever program you used and shorten the initial distances so much Pup hardly had a chance to pop before he was at his target. Particularly so with so much of the off season available to put the annoyance behind you before the open season's demands again tempts the short term expediency of further ingraining it.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:18 pm
by Rick
Redbeard wrote:
Olly wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:
Deltaman wrote:Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.
have you tried eliminating it with the collar?


If you try that sort of collar use with your gal, expect to get sideways. She'll not know what the correction is for. You read it here first...

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:58 pm
by jarbo03
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.


Not sure where this sweet quote came from, I quoted Olly but yet Tapatalk freaked out. Hasn't let me check a thread since this post, works on all other forums though. Rick explained it well also.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:02 pm
by Redbeard
Rick wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
Olly wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
Olly wrote:[quote="Deltaman"]Taz is lookin' good Jerry :thumbsup:


Yea he his, his back command is better than Moose's. My dog has a habit that I cannot break of him stopping every 50ft and looking at me for fruther direction on a back command. A follow up back hand signal sends him further back.

I'm not a "hunt test" judge. If it works, if be happy with it. I'm just happy if I can get my dog to retrieve what she sees fall.


Yea I'm very happy with him it's just a funny quirk and I don't know what I did to make him do it.
have you tried eliminating it with the collar?


If you try that sort of collar use with your gal, expect to get sideways. She'll not know what the correction is for. You read it here first...[/quote]Ha! I have no doubt. Luckily I haven't had any issues here...yet

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:37 pm
by Olly
jarbo03 wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.


Not sure where this sweet quote came from, I quoted Olly but yet Tapatalk freaked out. Hasn't let me check a thread since this post, works on all other forums though. Rick explained it well also.


I don't know why you'd be singled out. Is your Tapatalk up to date? It's hard to tell you why when you're the only one.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:38 pm
by Woody
Olly wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.


Not sure where this sweet quote came from, I quoted Olly but yet Tapatalk freaked out. Hasn't let me check a thread since this post, works on all other forums though. Rick explained it well also.


I don't know why you'd be singled out. Is your Tapatalk up to date? It's hard to tell you why when you're the only one.


Its the NSA.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:58 pm
by jarbo03
Olly wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.


Not sure where this sweet quote came from, I quoted Olly but yet Tapatalk freaked out. Hasn't let me check a thread since this post, works on all other forums though. Rick explained it well also.


I don't know why you'd be singled out. Is your Tapatalk up to date? It's hard to tell you why when you're the only one.


That is what's weird. I have reinstalled tapatalk pro and the free many times, along with any updates.

Re: Fun afternoon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:05 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Woody wrote:
Olly wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:New member from central Ga here.


This is what I did, and occasionally Taz will still do it. When he pops, ignore him. Tie yoyr shoe, or get in your bag, let him know he's on his own. If he stands there waiting, recall and send again. I'm sure there are drills to help, or better ways to work on this.


Not sure where this sweet quote came from, I quoted Olly but yet Tapatalk freaked out. Hasn't let me check a thread since this post, works on all other forums though. Rick explained it well also.


I don't know why you'd be singled out. Is your Tapatalk up to date? It's hard to tell you why when you're the only one.


Its the NSA.


Yep