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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby 3legged_lab » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:04 pm

Where is that pic that jim posted of stack topper he made? That thing was pretty pimp.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby grizz18 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:12 am

Looks great Red. :thumbsup:
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Weston81 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:08 am

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How are you gonna top off that smoke stack?

Still thinking on that. Any ideas? Figured I'd just set the cap on top and leave a gap until I decided what to do


That'd work fine. I don't ever have to mess with mine- leave it about a third open the whole time after it reaches temp, and just adjust the temp with the valve. This is pretty hillbillied up, but if you cut the bottom off a can, and put it on there, the drinking hole in the top would probably be just about right. Just an idea until you figure something out, because sure as shit, if you just set something on it, a person or dog will bump it and knock it off, just after you checked the temp, and when you come back later that thing will be rolling about 275 with the smokestack wide open. With dried up burned black ribs.



I don't have an UDS, but I do have a weber smokey mt smoker. With mine I never touch the top vent, I leave it open and regulate the temp all through the bottom vents. Maybe when you burn it out (season) the smoker you can fiddle with the bottom vents to see if you can control the temp prior without putting anything on your stack. AT,you had said you didn't put a water pan in yours and didn't have any issue's with the heat dispearsing unevenly or buring the food. How far is your rack from the coals? I have a water pan in mine but a buddy told me to fill it with sand and wrap it in foil, but my bottom rack is about a foot from the coals so if I didn't have the pan it would burn whatever was on the bottom.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:15 am

Weston81 wrote:
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
assateague wrote:
How are you gonna top off that smoke stack?

Still thinking on that. Any ideas? Figured I'd just set the cap on top and leave a gap until I decided what to do


That'd work fine. I don't ever have to mess with mine- leave it about a third open the whole time after it reaches temp, and just adjust the temp with the valve. This is pretty hillbillied up, but if you cut the bottom off a can, and put it on there, the drinking hole in the top would probably be just about right. Just an idea until you figure something out, because sure as shit, if you just set something on it, a person or dog will bump it and knock it off, just after you checked the temp, and when you come back later that thing will be rolling about 275 with the smokestack wide open. With dried up burned black ribs.



I don't have an UDS, but I do have a weber smokey mt smoker. With mine I never touch the top vent, I leave it open and regulate the temp all through the bottom vents. Maybe when you burn it out (season) the smoker you can fiddle with the bottom vents to see if you can control the temp prior without putting anything on your stack. AT,you had said you didn't put a water pan in yours and didn't have any issue's with the heat dispearsing unevenly or buring the food. How far is your rack from the coals? I have a water pan in mine but a buddy told me to fill it with sand and wrap it in foil, but my bottom rack is about a foot from the coals so if I didn't have the pan it would burn whatever was on the bottom.
yea I'll play with it

AT's grate, per him, hangs 7" down from the mouth of the barrel, as does mine
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Weston81 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:22 am

Makes sense then, I am tempted to build an UDS myself after pricing out a new one over the last few weeks.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:26 am

Weston81 wrote:Makes sense then, I am tempted to build an UDS myself after pricing out a new one over the last few weeks.
yea lots of distance between the fire and grate.

They work man. Very well. I just built mine, but I've been borrowing my buddy's off and on for a couple years now for large BBQ's.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:28 am

Like Red said, mine's 7" down, which puts it roughly 24" above the coals. I can keep it as low as about 180 just below the grate by almost closing the bottom valve. As was said, TK told me not to mess with the top vent at all, and that has worked out very well for me on the few occasions I've had it fired up.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby grizz18 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:32 am

Thats it. I'm going at lunch today to start getting the parts I know I don't have.

Called a place in town that does media blasting, but the working was turd with no information. All he knew was that it was $85/hr. I can imagine a barrel would take more than 15 minutes?

I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!

I need all the hardware though. Tell me if I'm missing anything.

3- 3/4 nipples
1- cap for the nipple
2- elbows
2- 18" pieces of pipe
2- ball valves
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:40 am

I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Tomkat » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:41 am

Redbeard wrote:
assateague wrote:
How are you gonna top off that smoke stack?

Still thinking on that. Any ideas? Figured I'd just set the cap on top and leave a gap until I decided what to do


Do it the way Assateague did his. He got it right.

Your Smooker looks good Red
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby grizz18 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:54 am

assateague wrote:I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.


Damn! I wasn't expecting that with the valves!

Will conduit work for the pipe, or would that pose a problem with heat/food?
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Tomkat » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:56 am

grizz18 wrote:
assateague wrote:I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.


Damn! I wasn't expecting that with the valves!

Will conduit work for the pipe, or would that pose a problem with heat/food?


You can do it Assateagues crazy money spending way, or you can do it the TomKat $1.14 way.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:59 am

grizz18 wrote:I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!
FYI, I have the 22" weber and my lid doesn't fit on my barrel. I don't know if my barrel just has an extra large lip on it or what. Hopefully yours fits

Here's mine with the weber lid
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby grizz18 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:00 am

Redbeard wrote:
grizz18 wrote:I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!
FYI, I have the 22" weber and my lid doesn't fit on my barrel. I don't know if my barrel just has an extra large lip on it or what. Hopefully yours fits

Here's mine with the weber lid
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Dang. I've seen some fit and some not fit. 50/50 I reckon.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:00 am

Tomkat wrote:
grizz18 wrote:
assateague wrote:I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.


Damn! I wasn't expecting that with the valves!

Will conduit work for the pipe, or would that pose a problem with heat/food?


You can do it Assateagues crazy money spending way, or you can do it the TomKat $1.14 way.
wait?! are you tighter than AT???
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:01 am

grizz18 wrote:
assateague wrote:I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.


Damn! I wasn't expecting that with the valves!

Will conduit work for the pipe, or would that pose a problem with heat/food?


It's galvanized, and since it's the intake, I'd probably prefer not to have it there. Black pipe isn't too expensive, though. You can get a 3' piece, and have them cut it and rethread it right there. You will want to get some sort of hanger/attachment for the upper part, where the valves will go. They take quite a bit of torque to turn until they get loosened up. I'd imagine a 3/4" pipe hanger would work.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:02 am

grizz18 wrote:
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grizz18 wrote:I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!
FYI, I have the 22" weber and my lid doesn't fit on my barrel. I don't know if my barrel just has an extra large lip on it or what. Hopefully yours fits

Here's mine with the weber lid
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Dang. I've seen some fit and some not fit. 50/50 I reckon.
cut the lip off and it might fit. Or see if you can flare out the lip on the weber lid to fit around the barrel's lip
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:03 am

Redbeard wrote:
grizz18 wrote:I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!
FYI, I have the 22" weber and my lid doesn't fit on my barrel. I don't know if my barrel just has an extra large lip on it or what. Hopefully yours fits

Here's mine with the weber lid
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Take some snips, and cut the lip in a few places, and then pound it flat with a hammer. Should be plenty big, then. I've also seen some pics where they do that and then run a bead of silicone around the bottom to make a sort of "gasket" (yes, silicone is heat-proof. Just make sure to use 100% silicone caulk)
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby grizz18 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:03 am

assateague wrote:
grizz18 wrote:
assateague wrote:I didn't get stainless anything, for what it's worth. And I don't think you'll be able to find 18" pipe pieces, but I could be wrong. Be ready for those valves- they're about $14 a piece.

And I'm a little jealous about the lid.


Damn! I wasn't expecting that with the valves!

Will conduit work for the pipe, or would that pose a problem with heat/food?


It's galvanized, and since it's the intake, I'd probably prefer not to have it there. Black pipe isn't too expensive, though. You can get a 3' piece, and have them cut it and rethread it right there. You will want to get some sort of hanger/attachment for the upper part, where the valves will go. They take quite a bit of torque to turn until they get loosened up. I'd imagine a 3/4" pipe hanger would work.


I thought about a threaded U bolt.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:04 am

I'd go for the pipe hangers. They'll hold it off the barrel as well.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:08 am

assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
grizz18 wrote:I just scored a round weber lid, and grate from my parents old grill that they're about to scrap!
FYI, I have the 22" weber and my lid doesn't fit on my barrel. I don't know if my barrel just has an extra large lip on it or what. Hopefully yours fits

Here's mine with the weber lid
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Take some snips, and cut the lip in a few places, and then pound it flat with a hammer. Should be plenty big, then. I've also seen some pics where they do that and then run a bead of silicone around the bottom to make a sort of "gasket" (yes, silicone is heat-proof. Just make sure to use 100% silicone caulk)
well I'm leaving my weber lid for my weber grill. My barrel lid is good enough for now
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:14 am

Oh, I thought you had an old Weber lid, too. I forgot that you had the Smokestack Royale.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:25 am

assateague wrote:Oh, I thought you had an old Weber lid, too. I forgot that you had the Smokestack Royale.
so you think a hold the size of a beer can mouth is plenty for the stack?
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:43 am

Yep. It'll let air out around the can, too, since it's not a tight fight. Hold on, I'll take a pic of how open mine is when I use it.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:49 am

Penny for scale.

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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:57 am

Then I could just cap it and tap the cap with a 3/4" - 1" hole. Ya think?
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:57 am

Or just use a beer can!
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby assateague » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:00 pm

You'd be a lot cooler if you did.
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:15 pm

How sweet would it be if I pulled this vent cover off my old weber lid? Would it put me in the upper echelon of UDS coolness?
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Re: The brotherhood of the UDS

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