Olly

[Olly]

You missed my point. It's all Chinese. These light bars are on the same level quality wise as "American" made ones.

what i heard here is that you accept inferior products. American products still are much better than anything from over seas.

Show me an American made TV or telephone. Show me a car that is 100% made with products sourced from only us manufactures. I'm not talking about tires or engines I'm talking about the rubber and metal used to make those.

Nothing in this country is 100% American outside of food and probably lumber products. Even then I bet the nails were made over seas.

You're comment proves how little you know about the products you use everyday.

show me where i said that we make tvs or cars. things that we actually do make are usually far superior to foreign products.

and for the record, go look at where your food REALLY comes from. we export damn near everything we grow.

Thanks for making my point for me.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

[NuffDaddy]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

[Olly]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Council tool axes.

Lodge cast iron.

[The Duck Hammer]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Snap On tools

[(MT)Montanafowler]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

[Redbeard]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Council tool axes.

Lodge cast iron.

good grief

[Olly]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Snap On tools

Where do they get their ore? Or steel? Are the bearings in their rachets made here or outsourced? What about the plastics in their products. I'm sure they mold their own handles but what about the plastic beads? Are those made here what about the dyes used to color the plastic? Are the electric motors in their drills made here? How about the magnets or windings in the motors? The batteries? The copper in the A/C charger did that come from America?

[Redbeard]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

ok assateague

[NuffDaddy]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Council tool axes.

Lodge cast iron.

good grief

I didn't even have a comment for that.

[NuffDaddy]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

Just because it says "made in America", doesn't mean it's made in America.

[The Duck Hammer]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Snap On tools

Where do they get their ore? Or steel? Are the bearings in their rachets made here or outsourced? What about the plastics in their products. I'm sure they mold their own handles but what about the plastic beads? Are those made here what about the dyes used to color the plastic? Are the electric motors in their drills made here? How about the magnets or windings in the motors? The batteries? The copper in the A/C charger did that come from America?

I don't know Olly I'm not debating you on this. As much as that shit cost I'd like to think its all American. But you are correct, America doesn't produce much just assembled it.

[NuffDaddy]

With our labor rate it would be nearly impossible for everything to be 100% made in the US. A TV would cost 10k a truck would cost as much as most of our houses.

[Olly]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

When did I ever say that I don't buy "American" if I can? I love having shit that says made in America on it but to claim that JUST because it's "made" here its automatically better quality. Especially because when so much stuff "made" here is assembled with Components from elsewhere.

[Bufflehead]

but i buy American made any time i can.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. Where are "hotbuys" made again?

yep, my hotbuys are all like that

truth be told, i'm switching over to a coot spread next year.

[assateague]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

ok assateague

Leave me out of this. I'll buy Chinese made shit at Walmart all day long. Maybe when the government decides to stop confiscating 30% of my money, I'll have enough to buy something made here, or even to give a shit. But until then, I don't care. Perhaps if the "proud American workers" cared more about a job, and less about a union, something made in America wouldn't be twice as expensive as anything I can afford. So hopefully the guys on the Lucky assembly line are proud of their denim, but I prefer the 11 year old Indonesian sweat shop employee making my Wranglers, so I can buy them for $14.

[aunt betty]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Wood.
Babies.
Wood.
Haha

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Just because it says "made in America", doesn't mean it's made in America.

yes it does, it's illegal to lie about country of origin.

from council tool's site:

"Our adherence to the first belief is evident the first time you pick up a Council hand tool. Our products are made of the highest-quality materials — American-made steel and American hickory. These are heavy-duty, professional-grade tools manufactured to the highest standards.

To maintain complete quality control, we produce all of our products at our North Carolina headquarters. We sink, repair and maintain our own forging dies and components in our own die shop. No tool leaves our plant without passing our rigid quality inspection process."

[NuffDaddy]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Snap On tools

Where do they get their ore? Or steel? Are the bearings in their rachets made here or outsourced? What about the plastics in their products. I'm sure they mold their own handles but what about the plastic beads? Are those made here what about the dyes used to color the plastic? Are the electric motors in their drills made here? How about the magnets or windings in the motors? The batteries? The copper in the A/C charger did that come from America?

I don't know Olly I'm not debating you on this. As much as that shit cost I'd like to think its all American. But you are correct, America doesn't produce much just assembled it.

My buddy has a snap-on 1/2" battery operated impact. That this was the tits...then he told me what it cost. I about pissed myself.

[assateague]

A pretty big chunk of the lumber I buy comes from Canada.

[NuffDaddy]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Wood.
Babies.
Wood.
Haha

Yup. And that's about it.

[The Duck Hammer]

Name a product made 100% in the US.

Snap On tools

Where do they get their ore? Or steel? Are the bearings in their rachets made here or outsourced? What about the plastics in their products. I'm sure they mold their own handles but what about the plastic beads? Are those made here what about the dyes used to color the plastic? Are the electric motors in their drills made here? How about the magnets or windings in the motors? The batteries? The copper in the A/C charger did that come from America?

I don't know Olly I'm not debating you on this. As much as that shit cost I'd like to think its all American. But you are correct, America doesn't produce much just assembled it.

My buddy has a snap-on 1/2" battery operated impact. That this was the tits...then he told me what it cost. I about pissed myself.

It's fucking crazy. I buy that shit up at garage sales and trade days when people don't know what they have. Other than that I'm probably not allowed to look at it.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

but i buy American made any time i can.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. Where are "hotbuys" made again?

yep, my hotbuys are all like that

truth be told, i'm switching over to a coot spread next year.

dude, my hot buys are 11 years old, i bought them in 2003. don't tell me i'm full of shit, go fuck yourself.

[The Duck Hammer]

but i buy American made any time i can.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. Where are "hotbuys" made again?

yep, my hotbuys are all like that

truth be told, i'm switching over to a coot spread next year.

DSDs are the only decoys I know of that are made in the USA.

[Bufflehead]

but i buy American made any time i can.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. Where are "hotbuys" made again?

yep, my hotbuys are all like that

truth be told, i'm switching over to a coot spread next year.

dude, my hot buys are 11 years old, i bought them in 2003. don't tell me i'm full of shit, go fuck yourself.

You're full of shit

[Olly]

but i buy American made any time i can.

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. Where are "hotbuys" made again?

yep, my hotbuys are all like that

truth be told, i'm switching over to a coot spread next year.

dude, my hot buys are 11 years old, i bought them in 2003. don't tell me i'm full of shit, go fuck yourself.

So you've been a hypocrite for 11 years?

[assateague]

I will not be held economic hostage to a failed production system, simply through some shallow appeal to patriotism.

[Redbeard]

i can't make a point for you, your whole argument is pointless. the only point you've made is that you buy cheap shit from foreign countries.

And you don't own a thing from another country? Oh that's right I forgot you're an all American mountain man or whatever BS you claim to be. get real bud everyone including you owns Chinese stuff. The only difference is I don't lie to myself about where it comes.

yeah, i have shit made in other countries. but i buy American made any time i can. Some things though we as a country just don't make anymore. also, if i can make it myself, i will.

ok assateague

Leave me out of this. I'll buy Chinese made shit at Walmart all day long. Maybe when the government decides to stop confiscating 30% of my money, I'll have enough to buy something made here, or even to give a shit. But until then, I don't care. Perhaps if the "proud American workers" cared more about a job, and less about a union, something made in America wouldn't be twice as expensive as anything I can afford. So hopefully the guys on the Lucky assembly line are proud of their denim, but I prefer the 11 year old Indonesian sweat shop employee making my Wranglers, so I can buy them for $14.

was referring to the "if I can make it myself, I will" comment

[Olly]

This whole argument is fucked.

Buying American made shit isn't even a civic duty.

Being a part of one of your constitutionally protected God given rights is.