Eric Haynes wrote:I've never seen a healthy 130lb lab...ever. That is all.
I've seen a number of healthy 115lb+ labs. Just had to be breed for that weight. You guys are just lumping all weight into fat.
Eric Haynes wrote:I've never seen a healthy 130lb lab...ever. That is all.
AKPirate wrote:Lots of healthy dogs that are over 100 pounds. What I didn't like is seeing my big lab hobbling around at 8 years of age. We did waterfowl and upland and his joints just wore out. Holding Kenai when we did finally put him down was one of the toughest things in life for me. Maybe the small ones don't do any better, never owned a smaller lab.
dont lump me in with all those gay heads who said thatOlly wrote:You guys are just lumping all weight into fat.
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
Olly wrote:AKPirate wrote:Lots of healthy dogs that are over 100 pounds. What I didn't like is seeing my big lab hobbling around at 8 years of age. We did waterfowl and upland and his joints just wore out. Holding Kenai when we did finally put him down was one of the toughest things in life for me. Maybe the small ones don't do any better, never owned a smaller lab.
Did you seek out and find a breeder that has breed larger labs for years resulting in a bigger frame on the dog or just have a dog that got to 100lbs? I'm not trying to say that I know what I'm talking about here but I have seen a few 115lb+ labs that were VERY lean and had the frame size to support all that extra weight from the muscle and 2 of them were 10+ years old and still hunting.
My current dog has the frame of a 70lb dog and that's why he's only 68lbs. It'd be cruel and a waste of a good dog to let him get over weight.
Redbeard wrote:I don't think many of the guys here are confusing large dogs with fat dogs
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3legged_lab wrote:This may be an exaggerated example but look at all dogs in general. Its widely accepted that a small dog will have a longer life expectancy, and shorter on a big dog. I dont know that you would get that much of a difference between an 80lb lab and a 115lb lab though.
first of all I don't have a life time of experience with hunting dogs to know the answer to this but...Olly wrote:Redbeard wrote:I don't think many of the guys here are confusing large dogs with fat dogs
So if a smaller framed dog is unhealthy because it's larger size puts strain on things like it's hips and joints why would a larger dog with larger hips, and joints be effected by the larger size? I'm really trying to understand the logic here.
To me it sounds like it always equals out.
Small frame + small weight = Normal/natural wear and tear on the dogs body.
Small frame + large weight = Extra/un-natural weight on the dog resulting in premature break down of the dog's body parts that have to bare the extra weight.
Larger frame + large weight = Normal/natural wear and tear on the dogs body.
That's how I see it and like I said I have met 2 labs that were very large (not just weight) that were lean and older in age still working every season.
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
thats tough to seeea oneal wrote:this guy is way to fat work him much and he starts huffing n puffing .but he got that way because after his eye had to be removed the lady of the house( aka the one who thinks she is boss)was giving him treats hand over fist .poor baby !!! he is a big dog and in hunting trim 65lbs now fatboy pushing 80 and you can its a bad deal
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
Redbeard wrote:first of all I don't have a life time of experience with hunting dogs to know the answer to this but...Olly wrote:Redbeard wrote:I don't think many of the guys here are confusing large dogs with fat dogs
So if a smaller framed dog is unhealthy because it's larger size puts strain on things like it's hips and joints why would a larger dog with larger hips, and joints be effected by the larger size? I'm really trying to understand the logic here.
To me it sounds like it always equals out.
Small frame + small weight = Normal/natural wear and tear on the dogs body.
Small frame + large weight = Extra/un-natural weight on the dog resulting in premature break down of the dog's body parts that have to bare the extra weight.
Larger frame + large weight = Normal/natural wear and tear on the dogs body.
That's how I see it and like I said I have met 2 labs that were very large (not just weight) that were lean and older in age still working every season.
...i'm gonna refer back not my athlete example. More specifically basketball players since I'm most familiar with em. But generally speaking taller athletes, especially those in the 7 foot range, have much shorter careers than the much shorter players. The shorter, compact athlete's bodies hold up much longer.
I don't know how or if this relates to dogs. But in my opinion there's something there. Maybe height adds extra leverage to joints that shorter dogs or athletes may not be exposed to.
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
no one cares about the opinion of a strawberry spaniel ownerBootlipkiller wrote:I think this can be Chalked up to the old "what is a better choice for a gun dog! Male or female argument". I don't think there is a truly right or wrong answer it's just a matter of opinion
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
Redbeard wrote:no one cares about the opinion of a strawberry spaniel ownerBootlipkiller wrote:I think this can be Chalked up to the old "what is a better choice for a gun dog! Male or female argument". I don't think there is a truly right or wrong answer it's just a matter of opinion
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
Redbeard wrote:thats tough to seeea oneal wrote:this guy is way to fat work him much and he starts huffing n puffing .but he got that way because after his eye had to be removed the lady of the house( aka the one who thinks she is boss)was giving him treats hand over fist .poor baby !!! he is a big dog and in hunting trim 65lbs now fatboy pushing 80 and you can its a bad deal
hahahaBootlipkiller wrote:Redbeard wrote:no one cares about the opinion of a strawberry spaniel ownerBootlipkiller wrote:I think this can be Chalked up to the old "what is a better choice for a gun dog! Male or female argument". I don't think there is a truly right or wrong answer it's just a matter of opinion
I like to pretended like I own a real dog sometimes. Kinda like when Betty pretends to be a guide.
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
Redbeard wrote:And why did you capitalize "chalked?" Were you trying to emphasize it?
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
you gonna continue to hunt him?ea oneal wrote:Redbeard wrote:thats tough to seeea oneal wrote:this guy is way to fat work him much and he starts huffing n puffing .but he got that way because after his eye had to be removed the lady of the house( aka the one who thinks she is boss)was giving him treats hand over fist .poor baby !!! he is a big dog and in hunting trim 65lbs now fatboy pushing 80 and you can its a bad deal
I started him on a low cal food and were taking a 30 min walk late in day .as for the eye old boy don't let it bug him .I see him turn his head to see, hits his marks ,hes just a happy guy .I must say I myself like a taller dog not so much big but taller we hunt marsh and thay seem to bog down less
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
oooooh no you didn't go there.Bootlipkiller wrote:Redbeard wrote:And why did you capitalize "chalked?" Were you trying to emphasize it?
Got to accent the big words for the highway cops.
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
Redbeard wrote:oooooh no you didn't go there.Bootlipkiller wrote:Redbeard wrote:And why did you capitalize "chalked?" Were you trying to emphasize it?
Got to accent the big words for the highway cops.
Coming from the guy whose phone's auto correct is WORN OUT
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
freaking presidential Medal of HonorBootlipkiller wrote:Redbeard wrote:oooooh no you didn't go there.Bootlipkiller wrote:Redbeard wrote:And why did you capitalize "chalked?" Were you trying to emphasize it?
Got to accent the big words for the highway cops.
Coming from the guy whose phone's auto correct is WORN OUT
It deserves a metal Hahahaha
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
AKPirate wrote:The sins of Boot and Gaddy are causing the Cali drought and knowing they have no limits to their depravity... :mrgreen:
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