Awesome Duck Club

[GadwallGetter530]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

So noble of you Gaddy. You're my new hero. Even with the ulterior motives. Can I hunt it with you?

Any time Mike!:)

[assateague]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

Where do you think that 300K came from?

[NuffDaddy]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

Where do you think that 300K came from?

You and me.
I think I deserve an invite boot.

[Eric Haynes]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

Queue someone coming in and calling you a socialist. :lol::lol:

[NuffDaddy]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

Where do you think that 300K came from?

You and me.
I think I deserve an invite boot.

I mean gaddy

[assateague]

Exactly!



The thing is, wetlands are ALREADY protected. To a ridiculous degree. No need to pump tax dollars into something which can't be turned into a shopping mall, anyway. That's just silly. And if you were turning it into a wetland, well then it really doesn't deserve perpetual protection, either. Just an abuse of government no different than EBT cards.

[GadwallGetter530]

Exactly!



The thing is, wetlands are ALREADY protected. To a ridiculous degree. No need to pump tax dollars into something which can't be turned into a shopping mall, anyway. That's just silly. And if you were turning it into a wetland, well then it really doesn't deserve perpetual protection, either. Just an abuse of government no different than EBT cards.

Maybe where you live but I think you really don't picture the area . Around here we have "seasonal" wetlands. With all the damming and levees most of our marshes don't truely exist in its" natural state". Almost every piece of habit has to be manually flooded, every refuge, every duckclub, every reserve. Coastal, Bay delta areas of brackish marsh don't need to be flooded to the extent of Sacramento valley and the rest of the state. Virtually all fresh water marshes here is a marsh because some one either flipped a switch to a pump or opened a pipe to an irrigation ditch .... going about it that way actually makes that marsh much more productive. Working the ground and allowing moist soil plants to get established every summer. Their is much more of a proactive view in habitat management around here that most of the country realizes. Public and private property are really farming for ducks during the spring and summer.

[RonE]

I had department of fish and game fund 300k worth of work at my place. They set up the layout of the property. Then check with you and ask questions if you are satisfied with the design. After that's gets all squared away. Fish and game will hire a private company to do the earth work. I've had a very good relationship with them over the past 12 years since the work has been done. The goal of this program is to insure the land is left in its natural state in perpetuity. Nothing to worry about really. It's a solid deal.

Let me get this straight.........My tax dollars paid for improvements on your duck club yet I don't get to hunt there....Is that pretty much the way it goes? How about, if you own rice land can the duck club still be used as set-aside?

[GadwallGetter530]

I had department of fish and game fund 300k worth of work at my place. They set up the layout of the property. Then check with you and ask questions if you are satisfied with the design. After that's gets all squared away. Fish and game will hire a private company to do the earth work. I've had a very good relationship with them over the past 12 years since the work has been done. The goal of this program is to insure the land is left in its natural state in perpetuity. Nothing to worry about really. It's a solid deal.

Let me get this straight.........My tax dollars paid for improvements on your duck club yet I don't get to hunt there....Is that pretty much the way it goes? How about, if you own rice land can the duck club still be used as set-aside?

I don't really follow the question RonE.

[Redbeard]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

So noble of you Gaddy. You're my new hero. Even with the ulterior motives. Can I hunt it with you?

Any time Mike!:)

and why have we never heard of this private little duck paradise before kevin? You holding out on us? And why do you live at the refuge if you have some private land? Does it blow?

[GadwallGetter530]

Don't let the vampire into your house.

The vampire gave me 300k to improve my land to kill animals. I own the land and can refuse access if I so wish. This program is to insure that land will remain in its natural state long after our selves and our opinions are dead and gone....... God ain't making any more land. Have to insure what wildlands we have left stay wild.

So noble of you Gaddy. You're my new hero. Even with the ulterior motives. Can I hunt it with you?

Any time Mike!:)

and why have we never heard of this private little duck paradise before kevin? You holding out on us? And why do you live at the refuge if you have some private land? Does it blow?

Its not the greatest for ducks. A little out of the flyway. It has its moments late in the season that can be good. We mainly had them set it up as upland habit that can be flooded if we wish. Lots of local mallards nest there in the summer. I hunt the refuges because they are damn good.

[RonE]

I had department of fish and game fund 300k worth of work at my place. They set up the layout of the property. Then check with you and ask questions if you are satisfied with the design. After that's gets all squared away. Fish and game will hire a private company to do the earth work. I've had a very good relationship with them over the past 12 years since the work has been done. The goal of this program is to insure the land is left in its natural state in perpetuity. Nothing to worry about really. It's a solid deal.

Let me get this straight.........My tax dollars paid for improvements on your duck club yet I don't get to hunt there....Is that pretty much the way it goes? How about, if you own rice land can the duck club still be used as set-aside?

I don't really follow the question RonE.

Sounds like that around 12 years ago, you owned some ground that you put into a conservation easement and agreed not to farm the land and to keep it in a natural state so that wildlife and wild fowl and waterfowl could live and reproduce there. For entering into the agreement the state provided about $300,000 worth of work and money.........Am I pretty close so far?

12 years ago I paid taxes in California because I was a resident of the state. So, it seems to me that some of my tax dollars went to benefit you and your passion for duck hunting. (yes, some of your tax dollars too) If effect, the state paid for your private use of the land and excluded all of the other people that paid for your improvements from using the easement for hunting. (this is beginning to sound like you are a Democrat)

Now, suppose you own some rice ground and because of the set aside program (that's the program where you are guaranteed a loan value on the rice you grow if you plant only a percentage of your rice base) Can you still use your duck club acreage as set-aside against your base? If you don't have any rice ground or rice base, can you lease your club to a rice farmer so that he can use it as set aside for his rice base?

[GadwallGetter530]

I had department of fish and game fund 300k worth of work at my place. They set up the layout of the property. Then check with you and ask questions if you are satisfied with the design. After that's gets all squared away. Fish and game will hire a private company to do the earth work. I've had a very good relationship with them over the past 12 years since the work has been done. The goal of this program is to insure the land is left in its natural state in perpetuity. Nothing to worry about really. It's a solid deal.

Let me get this straight.........My tax dollars paid for improvements on your duck club yet I don't get to hunt there....Is that pretty much the way it goes? How about, if you own rice land can the duck club still be used as set-aside?

I don't really follow the question RonE.

Sounds like that around 12 years ago, you owned some ground that you put into a conservation easement and agreed not to farm the land and to keep it in a natural state so that wildlife and wild fowl and waterfowl could live and reproduce there. For entering into the agreement the state provided about $300,000 worth of work and money.........Am I pretty close so far?

12 years ago I paid taxes in California because I was a resident of the state. So, it seems to me that some of my tax dollars went to benefit you and your passion for duck hunting. (yes, some of your tax dollars too) If effect, the state paid for your private use of the land and excluded all of the other people that paid for your improvements from using the easement for hunting. (this is beginning to sound like you are a Democrat)

Now, suppose you own some rice ground and because of the set aside program (that's the program where you are guaranteed a loan value on the rice you grow if you plant only a percentage of your rice base) Can you still use your duck club acreage as set-aside against your base? If you don't have any rice ground or rice base, can you lease your club to a rice farmer so that he can use it as set aside for his rice base?

Honestly Ron. I never thought of it. I would say no if I had to guess. You can operate a duck club/game bird club and make a profit from hunting if you want. But I can't see what you mentioned be allowed...... just me guess.

[assateague]

The thing is, I bet at least 3/4 of that money came from the Feds, one way or another.

[GadwallGetter530]

The thing is, I bet at least 3/4 of that money came from the Feds, one way or another.

Not necessarily. I almost forgot. Ducks unlimited covered alot of the cost as well. D.U and California waterfowl association are also involved. In many cases d.u and or CWA cover it completely. They work hand in hand with DFG.

[FlintRiverFowler]

Sounds like you buttholes are just jealous that gaddy got 300k for free to improve his duck hunting land. I'd rather it go to that than some *edited by mod* in a welfare line.
Where do I sign up for my slice of the pie? Thinking about turning my half acre yard into wetland.

[assateague]

I'd rather it not go to either.

[FlintRiverFowler]

I'd rather it not go to either.

That's not an option. The pork is going somewhere. Might as we'll be yours or my pocket.

[Olly]

I'd rather it not go to either.

Did he use state or federal money for the project.

[GadwallGetter530]

Sounds like you buttholes are just jealous that gaddy got 300k for free to improve his duck hunting land. I'd rather it go to that than some *edited by mod* in a welfare line.
Where do I sign up for my slice of the pie? Thinking about turning my half acre yard into wetland.

Me and hundreds of other land owners. I didn't realize I was going to rattle so many cages by recommending a way you can improve your hunting property.

[assateague]

My cage isn't really rattled, just see it as one more example of government doing something it was never intended to do, by reaching into someone else's pocket.

[assateague]

I'd rather it not go to either.

That's not an option. The pork is going somewhere. Might as we'll be yours or my pocket.

It's precisely this that makes sure that "neither" remains not an option.

[Olly]

My cage isn't really rattled, just see it as one more example of government doing something it was never intended to do, by reaching into someone else's pocket.

I agree but only if its federal money.

[FlintRiverFowler]

I've never taken money from the government. Not a single dime.

[Feelin' Fowl]

I've never taken money from the government. Not a single dime.

Tax return?

[FlintRiverFowler]

I've never taken money from the government. Not a single dime.

Tax return?

Oh you must mean the interest free loan I gave them.... Yeah.

[GadwallGetter530]

I've never taken money from the government. Not a single dime.

Tax return?

Not a dime!!!:lol:

[3200 Man]

I also was involved in several projects using organizational monies for wetland restoration . With this funding coming
in percentages form 10 to 45 percent . The land owner was responsible for maintaining these projects with water, discing
for weed control and providing security for the nesting birds. Cattle were always and issue and management was difficult
considering as ( I heard more than once , this is a cattle ranch not a Duck Ranch ) so flexibility was limited !
The improvements to water-ways were wonderful and it greatly helped the birds as most of the easements were 10 to
25 years . I do know if these easements weren't in place the whole ranch would be in ******* nut trees in no time !

[Feelin' Fowl]

I've never taken money from the government. Not a single dime.

Tax return?

Oh you must mean the interest free loan I gave them.... Yeah.

They were nice enough to return some of it!

[Legband]

I'd rather it not go to either.

That's not an option. The pork is going somewhere. Might as we'll be yours or my pocket.

If those of us who are against the intidalment mentality adopt what your saying , we are no better than the welfare crowd.
The government rep told us we could get federal and state money to replace our diesel pumps with electric pumps.
Free money , I told my buddy and the state guy , that's welfare , he got pissed , my buddy took the money.
Then they hit my friend with a I-9 for the money he got and he had to pay taxs on it.
I laughed until my sides hurt And I'm ride him to this day.
Either your with them or agansit them you can't take the cash when it benifits you and whine when a third of the population is on some kind of government assistance.
At least that's the way I see it.
And it will never allow some government agent on my property unless I'm forced to and I got to tell you boys I'm not sure I will then.
I have a nursery we grow plant stock and the county showed up and asked if we imported stock from down south.
Because they had the glassy winged sharp shooter ( a big grass hopper ) it's a bad insect no doubt.
And they wanted to trap my nursery.
Ok I'm a responsible citizen and I want to protect my neighbor even if it's the Gallos lol.
So I said set them up where ever you want.
But your employes must stop at my office and check in before they enter my property.
Well actually he says they don't have to do that, the law requires you to give us entrance.
I would give you entrance with or with out the law I told him it's the right thing to do.
But either they check in or they don't get in.
So he gets indignant with me, and I told him , hey pal there's still such a thing as private property and your standing on it.
So he checks in or I'll see you in court forunately for me he backed down.
But my point is and you can laugh all you want we are giving up our rights , selling our rights , mortgaging our rights away daily
And our government looks more and more like the third riech it's no joke.
You have SS troops in the IRS and now in BLM it's out of hand.
I'm no conspiracie theory guy but open your eyes before it's to late.