BGkirk wrote:Ya only shoot drake green wings ?
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Deltaman wrote:Congrats on a couple of fine hunts in Klondike Darren!!!!!! Looking at the first pic of birds on the truck bed from your hunt with Rick, I see that you, or somebody you are with, has the green, waterproof gun case cover. I saw them in the Mack's Prairie Wing catalog this year and bought one too. Considering the conditions we sometimes have to hunt in, a damn good investment!!!!
Duck Engr wrote:Booner gadwall there
Darren wrote:Today had me pretty frustrated with steel shot, may invest in some (heavier) shot type for next year. Just tired of seeing grays hit on windy days in very reasonable range, flying off 300 yards, only to fall out of the sky dead as a hammer thus making recovery an adventure. We are shooting steel 3's out of light mod or IC chokes.
Darren wrote:Shocker, a couple of the answers I expected....."well just get them close and they'll fall fine." Yes they sure will and usually do, but for the ones bailing out on a 20 knot wind but still within lethal range.....not so much, the steel goes clean through and through and allows the bird to fly a distance before succumbing. Some opt for a particularly tight pattern to compensate for this issue, just overwhelming the target with shot in a tight circle. No thanks, I'd like to eat the teal in close.
The premise here is that I'd like to try a smaller shot size to drastically increase my pattern density. Only way to do that and maintain current lethal range is to go to denser shot type.
Johnc wrote:I shoot only BB’s goose hunting for the purpose of wing breaking and head /neck trauma. I believe in steel large enough to carry energy to do as such while maintaining decent pattern density.
Body shots with too small of steel results in going down at an angle then either dying where they land or folding in air and dropping
I know from witnessing both hevi “x” and these boss shells,,that if smaller shot size is desired,both are excellent. Enough to make me say damn and I am rarely impressed
I can’t afford so I shoot simple 3 inch 1 1/4 oz bb’s
Or 1 1/2 to 1 5/8 oz BB’s in the 10
But in the situation described either up size to 2’s or go to modified constriction. But in my opinion tightening isn’t going to make up for lack of knock down power.
Darren wrote:Johnc wrote:I shoot only BB’s goose hunting for the purpose of wing breaking and head /neck trauma. I believe in steel large enough to carry energy to do as such while maintaining decent pattern density.
Body shots with too small of steel results in going down at an angle then either dying where they land or folding in air and dropping
I know from witnessing both hevi “x” and these boss shells,,that if smaller shot size is desired,both are excellent. Enough to make me say damn and I am rarely impressed
I can’t afford so I shoot simple 3 inch 1 1/4 oz bb’s
Or 1 1/2 to 1 5/8 oz BB’s in the 10
But in the situation described either up size to 2’s or go to modified constriction. But in my opinion tightening isn’t going to make up for lack of knock down power.
John's got it on the head. Yes it is an expensive route, but if I'm not burning through as many shells as in years passed, and to think of all the other random non-necessities I spend on, the prospect of a more expensive shell isn't as daunting as initially thought. Hoped to demo a box of Boss this year but haven't gotten around to making an order.........but that concept is exactly what I'm talking about.......#5's in a high-density load, makes for a super high-density pattern that still has punch-per-pellet.....and lots of them.
Speaking of a 10 gauge: had the pleasure of shooting another guest's auto 10 (forgot the make) at a couple of clays while at Doug's the other day. Didn't hit a thing, and it wholluped me, but could see its potential for handiness in the goose field. Was glad to go back to my little 20 g O/U I was piddling with at the time.
Johnc wrote: This isn’t for sky busting purposes. It’s for ethically being able to harvest and retrieve killeable birds without chasing so much or running the dog to death.
MallardBay wrote:
Darren, if you get around to going the heavier than steel loads, try the Hevi-Metal. I have shot them for some time now and it is definitely a step up from steel without being crazy expensive. I am amazed that how often people spend thousands a year on all kinds of waterfowl gear and travel and then shoot the cheapest shell they find on the shelf, yea it works fine "most" of the time. I want the best possible advantage that I can afford. Even if I only shoot those loads on high winds or days that birds are not setting up perfect. BTW I bought 100 of the Boss shells which are copper plated bismuth. I like them and they are a step up from steel but I'd personally give the edge to the Hevi-metal for lethality and cost effectiveness. Just my opinion.
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