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5 stand wrote:Grumpy here, nice to meet you Mr mad...
Rick wrote:I ain't sayin' nothin'.
5 stand wrote:https://youtu.be/ohSHvTMOlD4?si=7kjMus-T8hnpYfja
So that's the trip to the mudhole?
You have a 360° video from the blind?
That’s interesting 5stand! I thought they were all aluminum to impart minimum weight disturbance to the bird. Shows what I know.5 stand wrote:Duck Engr, earlier this year when you killed your banded bird, I asked if it was stainless steel, and you probably didn't understand why?
Didn't bother to try to explain myself at the time... Off season with nothing to do, here we go... Years ago I remember reading an article about stainless steel bands, and if my memory was correct they were what I thought attached with something like a pop rivet? And in the picture it looked like the band stuck out from the leg (maybe pop riveted on?) Was the reason I asked the question...
The picture below, second band from the left is the band that was on the blue bill that I killed this year... It weighs 31 grains, the mallard band to its right is a bigger band and only weighs 26 grains, and is obviously a different color, I think the 31 grain band (second from the left) might be stainless steel? Rick if you happen to remember this, and band birds this spring with Paul ask him, I'm curious...
5 stand wrote:Years ago I remember reading an article about stainless steel bands, and if my memory was correct they were what I thought attached with something like a pop rivet?
Lock-on bands are specifically designed to stop birds with strong bills like hawks and owls from opening or damaging the band with their strong bill. The lock-on band is used on all medium to large birds of prey other than eagles. The band is like a normal butt-end band with two unequal flanges of metal. The longer flange is folded over the shorter flange, effectively "locking" the band in place. The band is made of relatively soft aluminum and can be removed by the bander, but not by the bird.
Rivet bands are made of harder metal than the lock-on band (but not stainless steel) and are used on eagles. The band has two short flanges of metal that project out from the seam where the two ends of the band meet. These flanges are side by side when the band is closed with a hole for a rivet. The band is riveted in place.
Bird bands are made of a variety of metals and aluminum. The most suitable for use with shorebirds is "incoloy," a hardwearing nickel-chromium alloy resistant to the effects of saltwater and mud.
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