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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby banknote » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:00 pm

Well I only have two main things to do:
1. Continue progress with the pup.
2. Replace camo netting on the boat blind. The stuff I had to settle for late last season wasn't what I was looking for, but some sort of Swiss army surplus mesh. It fits the blind and looks great, but it's cotton and absorbs water so it gets heavy and I'm afraid it will rot. Want to get some custom cut pieces of this stuff form the local Army/Navy store.
http://www.camonettingstore.com/premium-camo-netting/premium-camo-netting-regular-cut-military-style/woodland-camo-netting-military-style-premium/

Probably ought to work on my shooting some, too.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:19 pm

1. Repaint and flock some mallard decoys

2. Flock my goose floaters

3. Redo my boat blind

4. Repaint my boat

5. Texas rig the mallards I'm painting

6. Paint old mallard decoys I bought this winter to divers

7. Tune up outboard and figure out why it won't always start

8. Still planning on building a hybrid

9. Paint my kayak camo

10. Build a small longtail for the hybrid
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:20 pm

Now that I think about it I need to get to work. Season starts in 69 days.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:23 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:Now that I think about it I need to get to work. Season starts in 69 days.

Oh well then maybe stop shooting those innocent carp and get to work.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:24 pm

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Now that I think about it I need to get to work. Season starts in 69 days.

Oh well then maybe stop shooting those innocent carp and get to work.

Carp are in the danger zone until august sometime. It's this damn job I need to quit so I have more time. If only there was a better way to make money...
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:25 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Now that I think about it I need to get to work. Season starts in 69 days.

Oh well then maybe stop shooting those innocent carp and get to work.

Carp are in the danger zone until august sometime. It's this damn job I need to quit so I have more time. If only there was a better way to make money...

Isnt August abt when the snow starts?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:26 pm

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Now that I think about it I need to get to work. Season starts in 69 days.

Oh well then maybe stop shooting those innocent carp and get to work.

Carp are in the danger zone until august sometime. It's this damn job I need to quit so I have more time. If only there was a better way to make money...

Isnt August abt when the snow starts?

Ha...Yup.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby QH's Paw » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:50 pm

huntall6 wrote:Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby Redbeard » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:10 pm

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kinda like when we all said "no way you'll build that boat"?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:11 pm

QH's Paw wrote: take it with a grain of salt. :D

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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby Redbeard » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:11 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:1. Repaint and flock some mallard decoys

2. Flock my goose floaters

3. Redo my boat blind

4. Repaint my boat

5. Texas rig the mallards I'm painting

6. Paint old mallard decoys I bought this winter to divers

7. Tune up outboard and figure out why it won't always start

8. Still planning on building a hybrid

9. Paint my kayak camo

10. Build a small longtail for the hybrid
ok now I think Vince's post applies here
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:16 pm

Redbeard wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:1. Repaint and flock some mallard decoys

2. Flock my goose floaters

3. Redo my boat blind

4. Repaint my boat

5. Texas rig the mallards I'm painting

6. Paint old mallard decoys I bought this winter to divers

7. Tune up outboard and figure out why it won't always start

8. Still planning on building a hybrid

9. Paint my kayak camo

10. Build a small longtail for the hybrid
ok now I think Vince's post applies here

Most likely. I'm guessing the hybrid/longtail are going to be put off another year...mostly due to available funds but I'll have to see how bad school guts me here in a couple months. The rest will all be done pretty quick once I get going on it. I'll find a weekend I have off and spend it getting the deeks ready. Then a little boat work and I'll be ready to go.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby huntall6 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:28 pm

QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby QH's Paw » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:34 pm

huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.

Have you ran seafoam through it? The fuel system cleaner called seasfoam, not literally seafoam.
Are you positive the linkage is on right?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby huntall6 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:36 pm

QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.

Have you ran seafoam through it? The fuel system cleaner called seasfoam, not literally seafoam.
Are you positive the linkage is on right?


Yes and a far as my googlefu can take me, yes. I am thoroughly perplexed with this thing. I need to break down and make the diesel surface drive I dreamed up. Spark plugs an carbs suck!
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby MuddyWaterWarlock » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:40 pm

huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.

Have you ran seafoam through it? The fuel system cleaner called seasfoam, not literally seafoam.
Are you positive the linkage is on right?


Yes and a far as my googlefu can take me, yes. I am thoroughly perplexed with this thing. I need to break down and make the diesel surface drive I dreamed up. Spark plugs an carbs suck!

I think you still have a plugged carb, you need to get in there and ream out the passages. All the parts you need are on a John Deere diesel gator by the way :thumbsup:
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby huntall6 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:43 pm

MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:[quote="huntall6"]Feels like its starving for fuel but I rebuilt the carb, bypassed the filter, but all new fuel lines on, replaced the fuel pump diaphragm, put new plugs in it, an tested compression (good), and there has not been a change. I am done fucking with it. She i going to the dealership as soon as I get the time to haul it down there (1hr each way).

Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.

Have you ran seafoam through it? The fuel system cleaner called seasfoam, not literally seafoam.
Are you positive the linkage is on right?


Yes and a far as my googlefu can take me, yes. I am thoroughly perplexed with this thing. I need to break down and make the diesel surface drive I dreamed up. Spark plugs an carbs suck!

I think you still have a plugged carb, you need to get in there and ream out the passages. All the parts you need are on a John Deere diesel gator by the way :thumbsup:[/quote]

That's good to know! I was thinking kabota but they sure are pricey! Hopefully I can start looking next off season. I have the worst luck with boat motors. Except assa. That guys motor makes him forget to check the fuel!!!
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby MuddyWaterWarlock » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:50 pm

huntall6 wrote:

That's good to know! I was thinking kabota but they sure are pricey! Hopefully I can start looking next off season. I have the worst luck with boat motors. Except assa. That guys motor makes him forget to check the fuel!!!

We have an old diesel gator at work, the thing is a torque monster. I have grown to love that thing, it just works. Simple set up, of course probably about a million injector pump adjustments but that is irrelevant when creating Frankendrives :thumbsup:
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby MuddyWaterWarlock » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:50 pm

huntall6 wrote:

That's good to know! I was thinking kabota but they sure are pricey! Hopefully I can start looking next off season. I have the worst luck with boat motors. Except assa. That guys motor makes him forget to check the fuel!!!

We have an old diesel gator at work, the thing is a torque monster. I have grown to love that thing, it just works. Simple set up, of course probably about a million injector pump adjustments but that is irrelevant when creating Frankendrives :thumbsup:
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby RonE » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:54 pm

banknote wrote:Well I only have two main things to do:
1. Continue progress with the pup.
2. Replace camo netting on the boat blind. The stuff I had to settle for late last season wasn't what I was looking for, but some sort of Swiss army surplus mesh. It fits the blind and looks great, but it's cotton and absorbs water so it gets heavy and I'm afraid it will rot. Want to get some custom cut pieces of this stuff form the local Army/Navy store.
http://www.camonettingstore.com/premium-camo-netting/premium-camo-netting-regular-cut-military-style/woodland-camo-netting-military-style-premium/

Probably ought to work on my shooting some, too.


I used that stuff last year and in my opinion, it ain't worth shit. PITA.......but I might be doing it wrong.

If I still have my boat I am going to burlap and raffia grass.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby Bootlipkiller » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:07 am

I don't want to talk about it
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby banknote » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:07 am

RonE wrote:
banknote wrote:Well I only have two main things to do:
1. Continue progress with the pup.
2. Replace camo netting on the boat blind. The stuff I had to settle for late last season wasn't what I was looking for, but some sort of Swiss army surplus mesh. It fits the blind and looks great, but it's cotton and absorbs water so it gets heavy and I'm afraid it will rot. Want to get some custom cut pieces of this stuff form the local Army/Navy store.
http://www.camonettingstore.com/premium-camo-netting/premium-camo-netting-regular-cut-military-style/woodland-camo-netting-military-style-premium/

Probably ought to work on my shooting some, too.


I used that stuff last year and in my opinion, it ain't worth shit. PITA.......but I might be doing it wrong.

If I still have my boat I am going to burlap and raffia grass.

Did you get it with the net backing? I've heard it's more durable than without. And did it snag a lot or what?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby QH's Paw » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:55 am

MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:
huntall6 wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:Does it run/start if you put fuel down the carb throat? Have you pulled a spark plug after several attempts to start with choke fully engaged? Just trying to establish whether you are actually getting fuel to the cylinders first.
Two strokes have a seal at the lower end. If it goes bad, than there is no vacuum to work the fuel pump diaphragm. Of course, that only applies if the fuel pump is attached to the motor and not electric and separate.
I don't know your specific motor so, take it with a grain of salt. :D


It's a merc 200 20hp. It will run and start fine but when I crack the throttle. It will barely idle up at all. But then some times it takes off like its brand new! I thought for sure it was a crack in the fuel pump diaphragm but now, I haven't a clue.

Have you ran seafoam through it? The fuel system cleaner called seasfoam, not literally seafoam.
Are you positive the linkage is on right?


Yes and a far as my googlefu can take me, yes. I am thoroughly perplexed with this thing. I need to break down and make the diesel surface drive I dreamed up. Spark plugs an carbs suck!

I think you still have a plugged carb, you need to get in there and ream out the passages. All the parts you need are on a John Deere diesel gator by the way :thumbsup:

If he has plugged jets or channels, it wouldn't likely work intermittent, do you think? I'm starting to lean towards a loose throttle plate or linkage. It grabs sometimes and rotates and other times it doesn't.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby QH's Paw » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:00 am

banknote wrote:Well I only have two main things to do:
1. Continue progress with the pup.
2. Replace camo netting on the boat blind. The stuff I had to settle for late last season wasn't what I was looking for, but some sort of Swiss army surplus mesh. It fits the blind and looks great, but it's cotton and absorbs water so it gets heavy and I'm afraid it will rot. Want to get some custom cut pieces of this stuff form the local Army/Navy store.
http://www.camonettingstore.com/premium-camo-netting/premium-camo-netting-regular-cut-military-style/woodland-camo-netting-military-style-premium/

Probably ought to work on my shooting some, too.

How much military camo netting are you thinking about using? What size of pieces specifically? I have some laying around I can look and see what I have. Are you going to OWF this weekend?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby 3legged_lab » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:07 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:I don't want to talk about it

You dont want to talk about what?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby Redbeard » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:19 am

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You dont want to talk about what?
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:24 am

I need to find some good rain gear before season starts too. And some waterproof gloves that are actually waterproof. Ill add that to the list.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby NuffDaddy » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:48 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:I need to find some good rain gear before season starts too. And some waterproof gloves that are actually waterproof. Ill add that to the list.

Let me know if you ever find any gloves. I'm gonna try those PVC dishwasher gloves this next season. Gonna wear jersey gloves then out those over for setup/pickup.
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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby Feelin' Fowl » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:58 am

These are awesome. Cabelas sells them for $40...

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Re: 14-15 season preparedness

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:59 am

NuffDaddy wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:I need to find some good rain gear before season starts too. And some waterproof gloves that are actually waterproof. Ill add that to the list.

Let me know if you ever find any gloves. I'm gonna try those PVC dishwasher gloves this next season. Gonna wear jersey gloves then out those over for setup/pickup.

According to assateague all you need is 10 pairs of jersey gloves.
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