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Hey coppers

Postby Goldfish » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:37 am

I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby capt1972 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:49 am

Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:59 am

Yes it's called the Cosine Effect. At an angle the the radar reading will be slower than the vehicles actual speed. And if I remember correctly, the greater the angle, the greater the error
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:06 pm

capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby capt1972 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:13 pm

Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:48 pm

Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby RonE » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:51 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:52 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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its how I wear it. Saw a hipster wearing it that way a few months back. Been doing it ever since
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:00 pm

Dont lie, you've been doing it for years.
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:01 pm

3legged_lab wrote:Dont lie, you've been doing it for years.
ok I lied. Been wearing it that way for about 12 years
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:06 pm

Redbeard wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:Dont lie, you've been doing it for years.
ok I lied. Been wearing it that way for about 12 years

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Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:08 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:Dont lie, you've been doing it for years.
ok I lied. Been wearing it that way for about 12 years

OG hipster
yea. That's right. I am huh
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Goldfish » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:52 pm

capt1972 wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Do you have to go off what it reads regardless then I'm guessing?
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:58 pm

Goldfish wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've been wondering this for a while now. Does radar/laser work to get your speed accurately at an angle?

My thought being they measure the speed of some thing coming at you or going away, but that's all they can do. So if a car is at a 45 degree angle to you, it is going to be going slower toward/away your point of reference, right?

this is physics, why are you asking a cop?
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Do you have to go off what it reads regardless then I'm guessing?
without getting into the whole procedure we use, I'll just say that any officer worth his weight in salt will position his patrol car to avoid extreme angles

We would have to go with the lower reading we get. We have no way of determining the angles and true speed. Nor would I care to go thru all that. The Cosine effect benefits you the driver.

This is all in regards to radar. I had lidar (laser) training 9 or 10 years ago and have never touched one. So I don't know how angles affect laser
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Goldfish » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:58 pm

I figured as much. Thanks. I was rounding a bend and a trooper was in the median on the way onto work today and I thought there was no way he'd get a good reading before someone slowed down at that angle, but he was down in the grass and I was in a truck so maybe cars couldn't see him that soon.

Thanks red.
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:58 am

Goldfish wrote:I figured as much. Thanks. I was rounding a bend and a trooper was in the median on the way onto work today and I thought there was no way he'd get a good reading before someone slowed down at that angle, but he was down in the grass and I was in a truck so maybe cars couldn't see him that soon.

Thanks red.
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby BrewGUN » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:22 am

Seriously Red, no lidar yet? I would have thought that would be standard issue in CA police cars, hell half the towns here in MI have them.
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:37 am

BrewGUN wrote:Seriously Red, no lidar yet? I would have thought that would be standard issue in CA police cars, hell half the towns here in MI have them.
oh we have em and they work great for what they are. But ours are handheld. Our radar antennas are mounted in the front and rear of the car. If you're stationary you have to angle your car a bit on the shoulder to hang out the window to use the lidar...because it's a handheld unit. Or stand outside your car to use it. Screw that mess. Radar's easier
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby BrewGUN » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:41 am

Redbeard wrote:
BrewGUN wrote:Seriously Red, no lidar yet? I would have thought that would be standard issue in CA police cars, hell half the towns here in MI have them.
oh we have em and they work great for what they are. But ours are handheld. Our radar antennas are mounted in the front and rear of the car. If you're stationary you have to angle your car a bit on the shoulder to hang out the window to use the lidar...because it's a handheld unit. Or stand outside your car to use it. Screw that mess. Radar's easier

But not as cool :thumbsup:
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Redbeard » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:45 am

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BrewGUN wrote:Seriously Red, no lidar yet? I would have thought that would be standard issue in CA police cars, hell half the towns here in MI have them.
oh we have em and they work great for what they are. But ours are handheld. Our radar antennas are mounted in the front and rear of the car. If you're stationary you have to angle your car a bit on the shoulder to hang out the window to use the lidar...because it's a handheld unit. Or stand outside your car to use it. Screw that mess. Radar's easier

But not as cool :thumbsup:
im waaay past the cool phase
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby Goldfish » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:06 am

He use it to clock himself while staring at the billboards
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Re: Hey coppers

Postby ducks~n~bucks » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:08 am

Goldfish wrote:He use it to clock himself while staring at the billboards

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